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685:. From what I could see in the back and forth above, it seemed to me that the COI was maybe a perceived one based on the article's sourcing or how you wrote about it? Which is why I assumed a second editor with fresh eyes could be helpful and then those concerns could be the laid to rest type of buried not hidden or obfuscated, which was never my intention. I am sorry my naivete and assumptions made things worse for you. I have asymmetrical knowledge concerning Knowledge (XXG), knowing a lot about the Wikimedia Foundation and its policies and knowing less about how I can personally be a good volunteer without relying on the patience and help of the good volunteers around me. 207:, first you said that you draftified it because of sourcing issues and notability issues, but now because of promo and possible COI? A little consistency would be nice. I thought about what you said about the page having too much promotional language, and I removed most of the background section. I have an interest in the page (otherwise I wouldn't have written it), but I don't think it's a COI. I don't make any money from the ARCH-HIVE's success, and I have not been paid to write the page. 226:
I am afraid the promotional material is very much there. I am afraid I am still of the opinion that the article passes through AFC. Furthermore I’m seeing something from some tools I use in nabbing possible spam and I’m quite concerned, please I need you to confirm this, have you by any chance used more than one account to edit Knowledge (XXG)? or are you currently using more than one account simultaneously? Tools can be faulty so I need an express reply on this.
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coverage I had seen on their scrupulosity show. If it does come up again and my context might be helpful, please link this explanation and if further clarifications are warranted, please @ or emailthisuser me (I am only sporadically logged in, so emails are best to flag timely on-wiki discussions). Sorry again for my original meddling and then disappearing act. I hope you have
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I’m afraid the message you got first is auto generated, it is a template message for anyone who has their articles moved to draft. The second message is me explaining the reason personally & not a bot. I never mentioned anything about being paid or not, I refereed to a possible COI. Unfortunately
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I am Petros Apostolopoulos, a Ph.D. candidate in Public History at North Carolina State University. My Ph.D. project examines how historical knowledge is produced on Knowledge (XXG). You must be 18 years of age or older, reside in the United States to participate in this study. If you are interested
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I still stand by my first tweet to you last year: "If I'd known we had a Wikipedian-in-residence at BYU, I think that could have helped my volunteer trajectory! I'd rabbit hole too much in how-to/policy pages rather than edit, perfectionism rather than being bold? Experienced editors around to say
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it makes sense that you assumed it was a notability issue, because that is the reason the other editor gave for moving it to the draftspace. I should have disclosed my COI more directly. I support the ARCH-HIVE on Patreon, I have contributed several articles to their blog, and I have contributed
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If the page comes up in the future, I just want it to be clear that you received unsolicited/uninformed encouragement from me to post the article the second time. From the time that had passed, it looked like you were going to leave it as a draft and I thought that was a shame due to the media
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Apologies, I was too busy to check your UP, I’m sorry I heavily multi task, I was preoccupied so much so that I hadn’t the time to check if you openly declared that you had a second account and had to rely on public tools(your first edit with this account) to make an educated guess that it is
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I am irredeemably late to the ANI discussion, having only just stumbled upon it by way of stumbling upon an old Wikipediocracy thread. I am so sorry for originally digging up your Arch-Hive draft and mistakenly assuming it was mostly a notability issue that could be
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amateur art pieces to two of their zines. I should have known that even if I don't make money from my contributions to the ARCH-HIVE, it is still a COI. Please don't feel responsible for anything that happened surrounding my topic ban.
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There's no particular rush... I just thought it would be more efficient to deal with the person who made the original complaint against the article, so I could address the specific issues you had. thanks for the reply.
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plausible you had other accounts. Self trout right there, having said, I still believe AFC isn’t a bad idea or Are you in a haste? The whole article reads like a resumé of the organization, the sources you optimize are
179:, this article in its current state can not be on mainspace. I note you know policy, so I hope you understand me when I say this isn’t mainspace worthy, I encourage you once mor, to use the AFC method of submission. 689:
things are good enough helps" — I'll add that finding you on twitter (an experienced Knowledge (XXG) editor with similar background!) was immensely encouraging. Late on all accounts, but thank you for existing.
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Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit
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If you now believe the draft cannot meet Knowledge (XXG)'s standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to
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in participating in my research study by offering your own experience of writing about history on Knowledge (XXG), you can click on this link
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and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.
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when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Knowledge (XXG).
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has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Slywriter were:
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of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see
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If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and
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per se. You see, all you need do is submit the article and it would be reviewed accordingly. See
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Survey about History on Knowledge (XXG) (If you reside in the United States)
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except you are in a hurry, I don’t know what the haste is. Peace Profound.
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Sources appear to be mostly Primary. Need independent secondary sourcing
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questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the
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If you have any questions, please let me know. Petros Apostolopoulos,
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regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
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If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to
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as you continue your editing journey following the topic ban.
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hello there, I have drafitified chiefly because of a
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If you need any assistance, or have experienced any
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On Knowledge (XXG) there is no 56:An article you recently created, 625: 527: 589:File:Archkeeper wikipedia 2.png 542:Articles for creation help desk 492:Articles for creation help desk 131:Association for Mormon Letters 1: 722:fair winds and following seas 621:03:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC) 598:our policy for non-free media 565:13:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 520:13:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 334:03:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 315:02:44, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 260:02:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 238:01:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 217:01:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC) 191:23:54, 21 February 2022 (UTC) 151:22:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC) 108:21:50, 21 February 2022 (UTC) 44:17:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC) 16:This is Rwelean's talk page. 448:when they have been resolved 119:general notability guideline 94:general notability guideline 406:—that is, they do not show 295:, ensure to get rid of all 752: 667:12:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC) 644:16:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC) 734:22:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC) 715:19:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC) 699:07:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC) 578: 393:Referencing for beginners 167:, Also, I note excessive 329: 255: 212: 146: 679:helped with new sources 583: 371: 659:ScottishFinnishRadish 636:~~ AirshipJungleman29 586:Thanks for uploading 581: 375:Articles for Creation 370: 356:Articles for creation 500:reviewer's talk page 123:Provo Music Magazine 683:original COI claims 655:this ANI discussion 354:Your submission at 88:(with a prefix of " 66:independent sources 52:moved to draftspace 707:Rachel Helps (BYU) 584: 545:. 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22:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
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