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source, which is still alive and even corresponds with me ???? If you want to know a child's father you surely - ask the mother - as simple as that. Of course you are free to disagree with
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I have my thesis, but the pictures are all rephotographed plates from sets of originals stuck to an A2 board. The original pics are somewhere in my cellar, the only question is where? I'll check my thesis to see if any of the pictures or diagrams would be helpful at that somewhat lower resolution. If
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What do you mean by unsourced ??? Just go on
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Dear Doug, what are you on about ??? All the research
Collins has done can be consulted on his website which has been in existence for decades ! I'm merely summing up his key results, okay ? And I'm also in touch with Lorence, so he knows what I'm stating ! And if I get something wrong he'll correct
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At least you left the publications this time, thank you, great, that's a start ... I got the "results" section ready now, so if you insist (and subsequently sleep better) I shall contact
Lorence G. Collins to have a read and then give his go ahead... can't do more than that ... it certainly will be
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The article I wrote for Wiki has been sitting there pretty much unchanged for many, many years now. Noone ever found anything major wrong with it, otherwise they would have responded asking for a change/rectification. Why should I go via someone else's comments/mentions/discussions when I got the
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So after all this destructive scything going on, what about some constructive energy ??? How do you want to proceed ? Discard the article altogether, keep it merely as a stub, or have a rewrite ? Obviously you guys are neither geologists or petrologists, otherwise you would be aware that Lorence
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Honestly Mike, I don't get it !!!! Do you want me to write a scientific paper about the research of Lorence Collins now ???? All this seems kind of ridiculous to me ... Why are you getting so funny all of a sudden just about the results ? Your logic consequently applied and this article wouldn't
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Okay Doug, fine. Now the Article "Lorence G. Collins" is about science and a living scientist. So what do you do when you were to write a contribution about let's say Einstein's relativity? You get the original paper of course, (you learn German - joke), you digest it and then come up with an
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Good job with the rewrite. However, there are a couple of Harvard ref tags in the article with no reference provided in the ref section. Dunbar & Berger (1981) and (Casey et al. 1979) in the "Sedimentation" section. (Garrison & Fisher 1969) and Iljima et al. 1978 and (De Wever &
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I am not insulting anybody. The article has been reverted to a stub, that is the simple reality of it !!! How would you feel if someone comes along and puts one of your articles into the wastepaper basket - and all the invested time with it ???? I am sure you would not be very charmed.
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Rudolf first apologies for misspelling your name - now fixed, I have no doubt personally that you are providing an accurate summary of the results, but we need someone who has done so in print that can then be cited. It's all about
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