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the season articles can be however the hell you want? Second, don't talk to me about political capital. You just want to respect consensus when it supports your opinion and reject it when it doesn't. Rather than wait for a fully consistent answer to the issue, you're taking the easy way out and supporting your ally on another issue even though you admit his change is illogical. You seem to have no appreciation for the fact that I've contributed to every major
American soccer article for the past 2 years. Now because the Sounders are in town, you suddenly care about MLS, and have decided that everything we did for those years was wrong, and you and Morry and Grsz11 are going to change it. Even worse, you're going to steamroll through your changes, and then we'll talk about them after the fact. I'm not trying to own the articles or anything, but have you given any thought to the experience I bring to the discussion? What about the fact that despite having no interest in the Sounders, I spent hours cleaning up that article, standardizing formats, etc.? I know that in the end we only want the articles to be as good as they can be, but I feel like my perspective is being lost amidst your desire to reinvent the wheel. I apologize for the stream of conscience sort of rant, and any hostility that was present when I started, but maybe its because I'm at the end of my rope or that its 4 AM where I am, but I honestly have lost all desire to fight this out anymore, and would like nothing more than to see how we can work on making the articles better. I think that if we could only follow through with our agreement at the start of the day we might be able to do that. What do you say? If the templates go back to the way they were before this all started, I will drop my objections to templates, and we can go about discussing any proposed changes you might have from there. Hows that? --
678:. Your user page says you're majoring in political science, so I have to believe you're familiar with the concept. Basically, you need to pick your battles. The problem I see is that you seem to think it's your duty to fight every single battle with every single person you don't see eye to eye with to the death. In the process you've destroyed your reputation and are currently on the bleeding edge of being banned permanently from Knowledge (XXG). I choose not to revert Grsz11's edit because it's not worth it to me that much. I already said I don't agree with it completely (now we have two colors that mean the same thing), but I choose not to fight over it. Some things I will fight over, but not everything. If I fight over everything, I'm wasting my political capital on petty stuff. If I go out of my way to help someone on the "down and outs" as I did with you, I want to believe that I've gained some political capital with them such that in a later discussion they'll be a little more willing to give me the benefit of the doubt. However that hasn't played out as you've just called my stub article idea both dumb and insane. To which I'm speechless. --
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myself. You reverted it, and since then we've been discussing the issue on the main template talk page. I honestly didn't mean to talk about things in a pushy way, and I apologize if that was the impression I gave. I just think this is information that can be easily added to the template that is in use all over the encyclopedia. If you think this is a bad idea, that's fine, but I reject the idea that 1) I have to have edited the 2008 or 2009 articles to have known what they looked like during last season, and 2) that because I made two edits that happened to have been similar to edits made by a blocked user, I am that user. I have only been editing on this account for a short time, that's true, but I have not done anything wrong up to, and including now, and would please, in the nicest possible way, ask that you extend me good faith while we work together to resolve this issue. Thanks. â
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norms of the encyclopedia. That is what "tainted," as you rightly say, his reputation with MLS articles, but the idea that because he added red highlighting to the 2008 article, it cannot be added to the 2009 article doesn't ring true. If you disagree, that's fine, and I don't really care enough about the article to fight about it. Like I said above, I happened to read on SoccerByIves that the Red Bulls were eliminated from the playoffs and thought I'd add that to the 2009 MLS article. It was nothing more than a passing issue. When I saw you reverted it, I engaged in discussion about it, and then you basically accused me of sockpuppetry in a roundabout way. Please, extend me a bit of good faith. â
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too far. For that I apologize. It appears that the only issue currently of contention remains the linking to club season articles or club articles. As I said in template talk, this change was never discussed, and differs from practice (I'm 99.99% sure) literally everywhere else on the encyclopedia. The
Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup, Carling Cup, etc. articles don't link to the Arsenal season page. If this change happens, I would be willing to let templates go for a few weeks to see if any organic discussion appears about them (i.e. random editors commenting on their costs/benefits). Thoughts? --
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a factual update: shows produced annually are NOT 4-7, but are 6-7. Shows that have gone on to
Broadway include Shrek (note that I didn't add Memphis as that was a co-production, nor Catch Me which hasn't yet secured a Broadway house.) We are a non-profit, verifiable by our website, our charter, and multiple other pieces of documentation; to say that we are not or that we make our money without funding is incorrect, despite the outdated copy of the PSBJ that is cited. (It's not only incorrect, it's potentially libelous when you consider that it can have a direct effect on our fundraising efforts.)
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already agreed to. Nobody discussed linking the templates to club season articles. That is not done anywhere on the encyclopedia. You think the
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1946:. Waxing philisophical for a moment... It's amusing he came to me wanting to accept my offer after failing in an attempt to aggressively retaliate. After that, things had been set in motion (Grsz11 started the sock puppet investigation) that could not be reversed. It's easy to want to "live and let live" when you have no other option (and even that may not be an option anymore). It's a test of character to do so when you still believe you can exercise power over someone else. --
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information that shows that the Wiki entry as it currently stands is inaccurate. (As to my bonafides outside of being a PR Manager: I was also a theatre journalist from 1995 to 2001, then again from 2005-2009, writing for
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both articles is just fine with me (assuming they don't get stopped on lack of reviewers). I'm going to go through
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pain having had my wisdom teeth out the day before, and I was having a very bad day, which might explain things slightly! I know that we both just want to make all the
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discouraged by the opposes - reviewers want the same thing you do, an excellent article. I learned so much in my first few FACs that the ones after that were a lot easier to write. Hopefully you'll feel the same way :) Best of luck to you and your article, and I hope we see you at FAC many times in the future.
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image. Qwest is in PR but has had better luck with a couple guys doing minor copyedits (I have no idea where one of them came from but he is awesome). Schmid is languishing at requests for feedback. As a fan, click on some of those sources since I expect him to bring up some good talent and play them
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Please look over the notes above and reconsider allowing my changes. I have been personally charged as part of my job by the
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with W, L, and T as the variables and just hard code the colors into the template and the W, L, and T determine if it is green(#CCFFCC), red(#FFCCCC), or yellow(#FFFFCC). Much easier to remember W, L, and T then the html. Also, what are your thoughts on including line separator in the template? Maybe
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Looks like I'm a bit quicker than I was expecting. If you haven't already done so, I'll probably be creating the RSL page tonight. Then I'm going to go back through the season articles and start adding in any pre-season, US Open, CONCACAF information that I can find, so if you want to help with that,
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Couple of things on the schedule portion. I'm currently putting the home team in "team1" and the away team as "team2". I'm also drifting away from using the time option because it makes it easier to copy the games from one season article to the other. I've noticed my speed is picking up as I complete
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Do you not understand the double standard you are applying? You only respect consensus when you agree with it. You have to have consensus to make a change, not just to remove one. There is no consensus about the SuperLiga places, so they should stay the way they were. Same for the piping of links
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a change, too. I was hoping that you might, in the interest of fairness, revert his changes, especially since I have not carried out with my intentions to repipe the links in the standings the way I think they should be, and they were before this whole thing started. Can you help keep things on the
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Many thanks for your very mature reaction to my post on the
Sounders page and your subsequent apology. Consider it accepted, and I'm moving on with absolutely no hard feelings. I'm sorry if I came across as uneccesarily angry too. Not that you need to know anything about me and my life, but I was in
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Hey, just wanted to say thank you for the courteous note you left me about the flag removal on the
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While I also appreciate your dedication to both Knowledge (XXG) and The 5th, I'm surprised to find this reaction to my most recent edits, which I don't believe are in any way "peacock" related. Yes, I'm the PR guy employed by the theatre, but the following edits are in no way related to anything but
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Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I responded to your comment on the main template talk page. Sorry for not starting the discussion before my change. Hopefully no harm-no foul. Anyway, making a few tweaks to the color of the table would convey the information more quickly than superscripts,
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Me too. At first I was lke "What the hell? I just finished everything! Who is this person?" It turns out it was the person who makes the decisions :) . I'm pretty confident in Qwest but a couple more things came up. They are minor but we are going for best of the best so another round of reviews on
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I can certainly respect the idea that Grant.Alpaugh has tainted a lot of the MLS articles, but the idea that anything he proposed is off limits is silly. Grant.Alpaugh resorted to edit warring, sockpuppetry, meatpuppetry, and other tacticts to own articles and push his POV contrary to the accepted
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says "How Acquired: Signed on loan January 21, 2009". I'm not sure that we can infer his current status from a statement about a historical event (being acquired in January). I have no intention of reverting your edit, and I'm confused myself as to his current status (though I joined the discussion
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I'm also not sure if trying to shorten the location field to just the stadium and city is a good idea. It might work for the bigger cities like Toronto, Seattle, and Washington DC, but just showing the smaller cities, like Carson, Frisco, and Sandy, doesn't really let the reader know where they are
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form at the start of the season. That included not linking to season articles, that included using the correct names of clubs, that included using MLS abbreviations, that included having the automatic berths show their conference seed in the overall standings, etc. I was just speeding up what you
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I'm hoping that the chance to help out local researchers, to engage in lively face-to-face discussion with other Seattle Wikipedians, and to contribute to Knowledge (XXG) in a new way will entice you to join us. The session lasts 2 hours and snacks are provided. Sessions will be held on UW Seattle
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Hello. I'm part of a research group at the University of Washington (Seattle campus), and my group is reaching out to Wikipedians in the Puget Sound area. We're hosting a focus group designed to gather information on what Wikipedians would like to know about each other when interacting on Knowledge
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sporting nationality - i.e. to use them to signify international representation. This has the added benefit of being easy to source, and removes the current ambiguity in the meaning of the flag - no more questions as to whether the flag by a player signifies a birthplace, an ethnicity, an adopted
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was my old name, but I didn't make all that many edits with it before I lost the password. With the US doing so well in the Confederations Cup and Gold Cup now, I started getting back into editing footy articles, and I decided to create an account because I didn't have the password to the old one
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Sixkick, Mjhammerle and myself aren't your monkeys either. If you haven't noticed, those are the only people who have edited the standings, which is being beamed right to your and Morry's pet projects free of charge. Why shouldn't the main MLS page be just like it always was and your templates for
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I think the only consensus that was reached is that it's not as clear cut who makes it into SuperLiga. You even agreed to that, however after agreeing, you still argued to not change anything with the coloring. That didn't make sense to me. I'll revert things I disagree with, and I'm not sure I
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My job as PR Manager is not always to "sell" the theatre--often I'm simply charged with getting accurate information out about who we are and what we do. That's what I'm trying to do here--and no disrespect, but my sources on these issues are more immediate, and clearly more accurate, than yours.
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While I strongly disagree with the accusations you've made, and can only deny them (with considerable effort), I don't think I should have to submit to a checkuser. It violates my rights to privacy, and would instead like to take you up on your offer that I stay away from MLS articles. For what
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Yo. Would you mind taking a look at the Layout and construction seciton of Qwest? I found a series of sources I couldn't ignore even though it is so far along in the FaC process. Any quick thoughts? Also, let me know if you need anything else with SFC. I tried makingsome changes (one of them was
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were mathematically assured of qualification, they were highlighted in green. Then when I was reading about the Red Bulls being the first team mathematically eliminated from the playoffs yesterday, and I noticed that the red had not been added to the 2009 MLS season article, I tried to add it
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Hi Skotywa, I noticed that you've submitted your first nomination for Featured article. It's always nice to see new nominators! I hope that you enjoy the process. In reading through your FAC today, I was pleased to see that you are handling the reviewer issues very promptly. Please don't be
1989:. Our first order of business is to tag all of the Seattle-related articles with WikiProject Football's {{football}} banner (most already have it), and add a Seattle importance rating to it. This be done by adding a Seattle=(importance) parameter to the banner, where (importance) is one of
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That is my first barnstar. Thanks! I was actually already planning on shooting one over to you for the tirelous effort of getting it to GA status. So when the status is approved, know that it is being awarded for your work on adding the good info, wikifying, and for being an overall
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done the right thing by initiating discussion. Anyway, I'm going to post a short notification on the main MOS page, pointing them towards the discussion at WP:ACCESS. Hopefully a few uninvolved editors will clarify the purpose of the guideline, and we can take things from there.
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The one item that you mention in your note, the figure of 61,000 as opposed to 55,000, was given to me by our Educational Department. If you would like, I'd be happy to have them forward you this information directly so you can see that this is externally verifiable.
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Hi, I wanted to notify you that I've created a proposal to create a Seattle Sounders FC task force at WikiProject Football. As someone who has edited articles in the space, I thought you might be interested. If so, you can add your name to the list of supporters
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1426:. However, as it was my first GA Review ever, I have sought out a second opinion for the article. Whoever offers the second opinion will have the final say. Thank you! (If you reply on your talk page, a note on my talk page saying so is greatly appreciated!)
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Sorry for not responding to you, but as you've probably noticed, I'm not very active on Knowledge (XXG) any more. Been a long time coming, actually. But good to see that the latest incarnation of Grant got smacked down. In the future, just start a section at
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Oops, looks like you're going through and doing all the updates. Go crazy. ;) Just saw that you did the Seattle and Toronto articles so figured I'd throw you a bone and do the D.C. article, but so we don't overlap again, it's all you man. Nice add, btw.
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someone removing that Montero was on loan from Deportivo Cali, citing the team's website. I'm not the one who removed that (and I'm not convinced that it should be removed either), but I don't know that the team's website is the best place to look.
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that article. I just hope you realize that behaving the way you have drives new users away from the project. Since all I did was discuss this, without making any further edits, is there any chance we can still agree to "live and let live?" â
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I am going to get so much crap for that Josh Brown line! Easy mistake to make when you are toying with multiple sources, articles, and beers at the same time. Thanks for the feedback on the awkward sentences. I'll fiddle with them and see what
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The article now meets all of the GA criteria so I have passed it with pleasure. Good luck getting it to FA in the future. Let me know if you have any other articles that you would like reviewing for GA and I'll gladly take a look. Cheers, --
302:(XXG). Our end goal is to create an embedded application that helps people quickly know more about others' history and activity on Knowledge (XXG), and we feel our design will be much more useful if it's based on insights of users like you.
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are examples of lists that do split players by appearances, but include every player on one of the lists. In these cases, the only reason for the split is down to the length- all of the players are notable and worthy of listing somewhere.
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I have made all the necessary changes. When MobileSnail does return though, could you be the one to explain to him what has been happened? He seems to know you, at least more than me, so it might be better coming from you! Thanks.
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I'm assuming that was your original source for your article. If you should need independent verification of this number or any of the other information that I assure you is accurate, please contact me at the e-mail above.
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applied to basketball, we would probably mention every goalscorer and red card anyway. If these are mentioned, and attendance is visible, then these collapsible boxes are supplimentary, and therefore should be allowed.
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I'm really sorry, but I'm just too busy right now to help with more copyedits. If you ever see the "open for business" sign at the top of my page, however, please feel free to ask again! Good luck with the article.
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First of all, I'm not your monkey. I gave you a few olive branches when no one else would give you the time of day. Don't try to abuse my empathy for your situation. Second, you need to learn the concept of
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I'm sorry for re-posting this, but I'm not used to how to contact editors on Knowledge (XXG), and I felt it was pretty important to get this to you in reply to your message about editing the 5th Avenue entry.
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Thanks for the bling. I didn't really even need to take a second look at it, it was quacking the whole time. Then when he started talking about himself, that sealed it. Hopefully he's learned his lesson.
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I'd be appreciative. but don't worry about it if you're still digging through the real world stuff. Real world is way more important than Knowledge (XXG), so much better to spend time there than here. --
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as he hasn't made an edit in almost 2 weeks. (maybe a wikibreak?) Since your findings and his were in agreement, would you be willing to go ahead and promote the article in his absence? Thanks! --
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a positive and useful contributor on all US soccer articles, and want to see them grow and be useful articles for wiki readers. You are doing an awesome job on the Sounders article. Cheers, --
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OK, go ahead and put it on the 2009 season page. By the way, Kasperone's link wasn't really similar to mine so that's why I changed it a little and the reason why I called for deletion. â
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PS: to help make my point (which is that whether or not I'm the PR Manager, this article is inaccurate, and that my edits are about accuracy, not peacocking): please check out this link:
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Thanks for the heads up! When I have time I'm going to read though the article top to bottom, identifying or fixing any issues I see. Then I'll weigh in on the FAC discussion. Cheers. â
2134:, or at (206) 625-1418. But in any case, let's resolve this please; I would prefer not to ask for a reassessment of this article based upon its multiple examples of factual inaccuracy.
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sense to me.) I wrote on the user talk page of the guy who created the current version of the WPS map, but have never gotten a response. You think you could make the changes needed?
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and I had long since stopped using the hotmail account it was tied to. Thanks for the welcome to the site though, and I hope we can keep working together in the future. Â ;-)
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in the standings. If you have no incentive to listen to anything we say, then what point is there in discussing? This will only lead to more edit warring. --
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more season articles because I don't have to type out the individual games as much, just have to copy the game from an existing article to the new article. --
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