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1020:", I am not fully understanding where you are coming from. I have been discussing changes on the talk page, however you have not made one discussion edit on the talk page. You have been doing all of your discussing on the edit summaries, all the while I have been urging you to use the talk page. So I do not think it's entirely appropriate for you to be asking me to use the talk page when I have been having a pretty much one-sided discussion with myself there. I would also like you to read 31: 239: 715:, etc.), so I just figured it was a remnant from one of their last spam runs that I had missed. I occasionally go through the external links for the name articles since they regularly get spammed by various name websites (that all seem to have very similar data, and are usually not much more than Gregory = watchful). Compare that to the Knowledge 555:. I would like to invite you to state your views; I personally had never heard of this screenshot limit until now and I've been involved with a number of articles with multiple screencaptures. Has the rulebook been rewritten again as it was with magazine images and publicity photos? Pretty soon I could see Knowledge losing images entirely. 1231:(I forgot to log in, sorry), and you recently commented on the talk page of that IP address that my recent edit removed content. I can't remember what the article was, exactly. Could you refresh my memory? From what I can recall I was only correcting a typo, but since I don't remember clearly I could very well be wrong. Again, I apologize. 1052:
I am not making any controversial edits made from solely my point of view. It is you who disagrees with the consensus of other editors, not I. Several other editors have pointed out their disagreement with your particular editors, not just me, and I have explained my reasoning in my edit summaries,
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Last reply before I head out of town: Good edit to the Ana Lucia page. It's well-worded, it points out the flaw, and it really doesn't cause any sort of disruption. =) You might want to add it back again or something as soon as you can because it looks like it got deleted when they were trying to fix
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Fair use requirements apply to each page the image appears on. People pretty much agree that they are OK on a page devoted to the episode. There isn't a consensus on images in list of episode pages, though. My strategy is to justify fair use images as much as possible wherever I use them. With a
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There's nothing wrong with it, I just always assumed the point was for it to show below the image, and in tables the caption doesn't show up. Also, since the images are now on the individual episode pages, and clicking on the episodes will show the images with captions, you can add the same caption
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Behind the Name is specifically cited on the page, and I also used it for finding names which are considered unisex, whether originally, traditionally, or in modern usage. No, it does not have a "unisex section," but it does have information available. As for its reliability, I find it to be above
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I’m sorry you felt I went about it the wrong way; perhaps that's what you should have said in the first place, rather than simply that I was wrong. My goal was not to disturb anything, or to go on an "editing spree," but to have the best possible information available. I am going to make a note on
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Neither link you provided was specifically geared toward Ana Lucia, the character. So please don't think I disregarded what you had to say about the issue. I only feel you jumped far too quickly to change every single mention of Ana Lucia on Knowledge without once asking if it was the right thing to
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If you are accusing me of reverting the item because it was you, that is quite an accusation. To be honest, I didn't even specifically recognize the user name, and if I had, it wouldn't have made a difference. I was mainly reverting the person who attempted to "diagnose" his disorder, but thought
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I have never even been to that page before. However, I am on a university network(in a dorm). So that could account for it. There are a lot of people here who don't know anything about wikipedia policy. Wonder if my neighbors got that message too. Oh, and I never arbitrarily delete content without
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I did not disagree that the article needs to be cleaned up (and, indeed, worked on it myself), and I believe I explained myself adequately in the edit summary. If you disagree with what I and other users have said with regards to the changes you made (or you wish for us to clarify our issues with
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All I'm saying is, if you click on the episode next to them, you can add the exact same caption to the same image placed there, whereas the caption isn't even visible on the episode list page. ::shrug:: It just seems more logical to me. If it bothers you, though, it's fine. And, yeah, the image
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hey shabbernanner..what dont you like about my gabriel changes? (im the guy whos been trying to change it) the jew encylopedia article you cite shows the you are right as far as the arabic trasdion ofthe meaning...but the gavar part of the word in hebrew wither means strength or man. also i dont
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Adding: to clarify, what I mean even more specifically is, that those are the episodes to which the images belong, and those same images are on the episode pages, so if there is any confusion as to whether or not those are fair-use it should be made immensely clear there, whereas a caption that
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over whether images are allowed in list of episode pages. To paraphrase, people who want to delete them think they aren't accompanied by "significant discussion." Having a caption that specifically relates them to the episode just adds weight to the "significant discussion" that's required. -
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And I'm happy to know that ABC can't figure it out themselves, but, honestly, that should make it even more obvious that you shouldn't change it so abruptly. If the show can't figure out which version they want, why should you be the one to make the final decision? I'm not mad or frustrated or
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Okay the second one was a stupid mistake, i didn't know that you wern't supposed to remove other users comments. However the Mr and Mrs. Turner thing, well I was removing Vandelism, I've played all the Kingdom Hearts games, they included, No nickolodian shows or refrences. the Turners were not
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defined stubs as any article that had "3 to 10 short sentences". It's recently changed to be more flexible for more detailed topics, but given that many topics on Knowledge get more than 2000 google hits, I see no reason why the 3-10 sentences criteria doesn't apply to Metallicar, and at 14
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I'm sorry, I didn't see your comment until now. The definition on that page cites no reference, and citing another page on Knowledge for a definition is circular referencing. I don't think we should link to that page because it's a page on the angel Gabriel, not the name.
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seem to boil down to "is there still a noticable/significant amount of information that needs to be added?" Do you believe that the article is obviously too small, that any non-expert could add information to the article simply by googling for more information?
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involved at all and thus the category was put on as a joke. removing a category that does not apply cannot be vandalism, misleading people into thinking that characters who arn't in a work of fiction are is just stupid and should be considered vandalism.
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It doesn't matter how it is pronounced, Ana Lucia is correct. Please check the link I left you. ABC is the official source for spelling. Period. Also, the discussion of how to spell her name has been brought up on several Lost talk pages, you should
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anything, I just wish you had brought it up for a real discussion before going on the editing spree. Anyway, I cannot comment anymore as I will be out of town until next week, so don't expect anything else for a while if you choose to reply. --
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Personally, I find the Behind the Name website about average for name websites on the internet, but that's just my opinion. They don't seem to have a unisex name page or category, so I don't know how you were using it as a reference.
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I read your link, and I take it you didn't read the one I provided. If you believe the ABC website is absolutely correct for the spellings of their names, then check these: an episode synopsis where her name is spelled with a
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I'm really sorry, that was my mistake; a lot of people had been adding that category, and I read the history wrong as you adding it, rather than deleting it. I'll remove the warnings. Thanks for being patient with me. :-)
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caption that specifically mentions the image, there is just that much more text to justify their fair use. I'll let you put the captions back if you agree, so as to not mess up the images. p.s. Are you a boy or a girl? -
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If there's nothing wrong with them, could you leave them? I'll leave the decision up to you. If no ones trying to delete them, I guess it doesn't matter. The reason why I like them is that there's a huge discussion at
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indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.
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I was lucky enough to find that new image online, but it's been difficult to upload others. Do you know where any images from the film are located, such as a scene from the beach or one of the Genovian parties?
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do. While you outright told people what you did and why, you never once asked if you should. Something that changes something in many, many articles that was understood to be the correct version should
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I guess what you're doing is basically cool. I just wish you would create the episode pages before linking to them. Anyone who comes across the page right now will have trouble navigating it. -
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that the item about the water had merit and could be included in the article. It should be in the prose, yes, but if you delete it altogether it's probably not ever going to end up there. -
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as a stub or not... articles don't remain as stubs just because they need extra editing... most articles on Knowledge tend to be far from perfect. The definitions mentioned at
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Oh yeah. I don't seem to be having the image problem you mentioned, maybe because I use a non-standard web browser. I'm sorry that I messed that part up for you. -
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the character page about the alternate spellings, and if any more information becomes available, I will update it myself. --Shannernanner 06:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hi I'm Hmrox. I didn't vandalize the article. I thought she would have fitted in that category. But now I probaly really wouldn't consider her a devil child though.
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I apologize for not immediately replying to you. I do not watch other user's talk pages. Regarding what you said above and also the edit summary where you said "
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03:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)== What did i Vandalize? == Tell me what entries you considered Vandalism please, i don't know what the heck you talking about.
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BTW, I've just seen the season finale, and am updating many of the pages to match. Don't go looking at recent edit histories if you haven't seen it yet.
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Please use the talk page to discuss the changes to the page, not edit summaries. The article needs to be cleaned up because it's a mess.
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In case you haven't seen it, a discussion thread has been started regarding your removal of images from the Audrey Hepburn article (see
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Ana-Lucía spelled without an accent would be pronounced completely differently; the point of an accent is to tell one where to put the
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to Knowledge! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
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average compared to most name sites, but the "average" is awful, in my opinion. I did not rely solely on its say-so in most cases. -
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as well as English. I did read the discussion on the talk pages, and saw no set precedent for the spelling of her name. See also:
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see why we shouldnt link to the article in wiki on gabriel (which also mentions diffrent meanings for the word gabriel) SEP 11 2006
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I, mboverload, hereby award you the minor barnstar for all your work in doing the small, sometimes unnoticed fixes to the article
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from the edit summary help page for why using the edit summaries like you have is inappropriate. Please do not try to incite an
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What was that message in reference to? I made a few edits in the last few days. Thanks for explaining the minor edit criteria.
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sentences, it doesn't seem like there could be much more information out on the web for non-experts to add to the article. --
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on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out
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refer to those before making major changes like that just to make sure the matter hasn't already been settled before. --
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should have its own page. I've thought about it for the last day, and have changed my mind; it probably should.
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That's probably it. A lot of people have been vandalizing it in the past day or so. Don't worry about it. :-) -
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I'm not sure I see any fair use reason to have (non-visible) image captions on an episode list page? There are
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Sure, I'll move the discussion there. For what it's worth, I'm also discussing the recent change to WP:STUB at
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I feel like we've had some sort of outreach bonding experience. You have a nice picture on your userpage.
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Okay, it's fine, if that's what you want. I'm not sure what my gender has to do with anything, LOL. :-) -
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page that "The length of the article is not an absolute rule to classify between a stub and a non-stub."
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What's wrong with having an image caption? For me it just shows up when I hover over the picture. -
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on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  —
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Please stop making edits to all of the Lost pages changing "Ana Lucia" to any other variation.
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website, someone from that website regularly spams all the name articles on the Knowledge (
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to discuss your changes on the talk page. I am not "inciting an edit war" in any sense. -
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a disambig page. I don't think this is a good idea at all for the reasons outlined at
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I mentioned the reason for the upcoming episodes both in my edit comments and on the
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as have other editors, yet you continue to make the same changes over. That is why
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a single page more than three times in 24 hours, even if others have. Thank you.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Thanks. :-) I'll do my best. --Shannernanner 11:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
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You are right about my making the wrong edit for disambiguation for
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Sure, I'll see what I can do. And thanks for the appreciation. :-)
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No problem, dude/babe (I have no earthly idea what gender you are)
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For more information on using images, see the following pages:
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Thanks again to both of you for your work on The 4400 pages.
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mentioning it on the talk page/providing edit summary.
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Thank you. --Shannernanner 15:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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