1676:, this is Janet again. I will be going to the library beginning of next week to check on all of these references, but here is my problem that remains. In this case: "For a thorough interpretation of the historicity of the Hebrew texts consistent with decades of archaeological research, see Kitchen (1), Hoffmeier (3), Gordon and Rendsburg (2), Rendsburg (8), and Hoffmeier (4). These scholars give a detailed and measured account of thousands of documents and artifacts, cross referenced to the ancient Hebrew documents, placed in chronological order.." These references are books and articles that are filled with details and document references. The statement is similar to this scenario: if one was creating a wikipedia article explaining biochemistry and pointed to several books that outline the basics of biochemistry. How in that case would you reference individual pages? Later I do provides specific examples and points supported by pages for the points that the archaeologists make. Again, a similarity would be if you were going to detail the Krebbs cycle from that same biochemistry webpage, you would then list the pages. As an academic, which I am at RIce University, this is the way one would write a review article.
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