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showed him how to play "Ain't That a Shame" by Fats Domino." My edit regarded the specific statement, "when John was 11 years old"; John was 11 years old in 1951, and while his mother may have taught him the banjo at that time (although the context suggests otherwise), she clearly did not play him any Elvis
Presley records, or Fats Domino's "Ain't That a Shame", because they hadn't been recorded yet. I agree with your comment, "It's not like he visited there one time in his entire life", he, presumably, was still visiting in 1956 when Julia may well have played him the records by Elvis and Fats Domino; however, he was 16 in 1956, which is why I changed the text from "11 years old" to "teenager" i.e. it covers a longer, less specific (but physically more possible) time frame. As such, I don't think this would qualify as an original contribution requiring a citation, it's simply logic. Equally, if you prefer, simply deleting "when John was 11 years old" would have the same effect. Thank you, once again, for the technical advice though; much appreciated.
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his teenage years: no argument there. My issue relates to John's interaction with these specific records at the specific time stated i.e. anything by Elvis and/or "Ain't That a Shame" by Fats Domino in the year that John was 11 (1951). I take it that the year of release of Fats Domino's "Ain't That a Shame", or the year of Elvis's debut is not in dispute; so, therefore, how could Julia play them to John in 1951. I agree with your comment regarding being "directed by the sources", and in this instance "the sources" clearly state that
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Sundayclose; however, I'm not clear on the point you're making. The original text states that "Julia visited Mendips on a regular basis, and when John was 11 years old, he often visited her at 1 Blomfield Road, Liverpool, where she played him Elvis Presley records, taught him the banjo, and
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You make a good point. If we pinpoint the age to either "11 years old" or "teenager", we oversimplify the issue because John interacted with his mother before and during his teen years. We should always be directed by the sources, and part of the problem here is that I don't have access to the Spitz
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Sundayclose; however, I think we're still at cross-purposes here. The issue that my edit was concerning wasn't John's interaction with his mother, I agree with you that there is plenty of evidence to support the assertion that John interacted with his mother before and during
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