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Since you have yet to specifically point out where the clarity is in any existing policy, it's apparently not clear enough for you either. At this point, I would recommend going to the discussion I posted on your talk page and not moving any of the articles for the time being; I'm not going to move
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No edit warring necessary. For now, however, I'm going to have to leave what I had done done (since I cannot revert some of the moves I've done now), and whatever the outcome of that discussion ... well, we'll just have to see what happens. Either outcome, well, I'm glad a consensus will be formed.
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present in the navbox, transmogrify them into a pseudo-TOC, and then include both on every page. If you're going to present the same list twice, use the same format both times. Secondly, rather than using a header template (which is impossible on articlespace as it doesn't actually have sub-pages),
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Honestly, here's the way I see it, and I know it would be up for debate (as proven here); the full name of the book should be able to be seen by the editors who need to know. However, the short version that was there before should definitely be a redirect to the main article with the long name for
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I agree with you that if you do lowercase 'Play' in the article title then the body of the article ought to match. It's just that I'm processing so many technical requests to change article titles to lower case that it sounds like the way of the future. When I see a request to go the other way (to
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I think I'd like to take you up on your offer: "If you want to cancel the move or merge requests, you can let me know and I will "deactivate" those requests, if I am available." Cancel at will with my appreciation. And since I know nothing of how to be "bold," I appreciate the link. I'm impressed
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No problem. And I saw the description on the watchlist, so I thought there might have been some sort of purpose for keeping all links and redlinks on that page. Makes sense. Either way, no problem. However, I might have a question or two from time to time, and I'm guessing you would be the one to
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are the awards for working child stars who are already successful in the industry, appearing in blockbuster feature films, television shows, etc (it's basically the equivalent of the
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I'm going to send a response on your page about this; Long story short, some of the links you sent me did not work for me to see what you did, but I think I have a good idea based on what I saw.
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