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that you only note the most iconic (studio one, Fox?). For something as small as the painted turtle, I kinda felt finding any "love" was noteworthy in and of itself. Definitely the official state reptile stuff should stay. You could clip some of the other stuff. I was trying to be comprehensive...and I built that whole section out of nothing! But if we have to cut some of it, like the crappier businesess, fine. Or the kids book (I actually found a second one, just on picta, but I held off). If we cut the BC slant than it just reads a little less "pretty". Was sort of trying to make sure we were fair in coverage of the creature in both US and Canada (since it ranges both places, Mexico it may be dead there for all I know and has only been seen twice in the history of writing). but if we cut the little BC sentence in the lead, we just note the US state considerations. I don't really think of it as some mechanical application of policy, but of understanding the policy and trying to follow what the intention is. But we could have some straw down in the Culture section.
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should be as interested in (pick an obscure turtle) as they are in "snapping turtle" or diamondback terrapin, or sea turtle, but...they're not. And I doubt an FA (for example on the Mauritian grave bat) is going to make them interested in something obscure. I would take an approach of serving people's desires, not "telling them what to eat". I think that ends up doing more good for the world. Plus personally, I think it's more fun to work on something you know is and will get viewers. And usually I kinda agree with the general public on what animals are cool and interesting.
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about alligator than about some Cuba caiman or the like. And a lot of the project rankings are just kinda guesses anyhow. I would go off of pageview and then tweak it when it doesn't feel right. But whatever you want to do is cool. And we got the importance upgraded to high. so 1.0 is old. but no biggie. I know you have to make decisions and go to some source and 1.0 is a good choice.
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a "POV political bias", I would have been emotionally involved in trying to have it kept. The seat in question was a marginal one and a high priority for the Liberal Democrats, a party I am no longer a member of; any reduction in the Labour vote or continued advertising of that event would have had the effect of
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OK, let me let this guy finish up first and opine on the BC aspect. (And for all I know he rips us a cloaca on the rest of it, so we deal with that too.) I think that I could make you pretty happy by culling the BC sentence, being a little less "braggy" about the states (I still prefer to at least
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To me, the winery seemed pretty sizable from website and awards and was really pushing the connection, not just naming themselves, but a logo, discusison of lifestyle and stuff on their site about the animal. And the camp and the press imprint. For a creature like a lion, you probably have so many
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Oh...and look at how Suncreator did one of the picta flips. (look at his version in the file image page.) There is a program he uses. It won't do the flip for you, but it will take care of updating the file image page (sort of like a Magus ref tool). I used it when I flipped the basker (can look
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Just a note; you wrote that "So you are confirming he was at the time a political active Liberal Democrats supporter and so it is POV political bias. Thanks. At least that answers my 'WHY' question and explains his emotional involvement in the situation". If I was paying attention to that AfD due to
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Let me mix in some gansta roll too! You should have seen me when I drank. People got a hoot out of it. (but it was gaming forums and the like, more play allowed.) In my defense, I do make some reaches at times (am always looking for organizing principles, so what's), but at least I'm willing to
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The way I see it, TCO has done a good job of organizing and incorporating it all. None of the material in the body of the article needs to be removed, "culture" is a compact and interesting part of the article and I feel it's coverage in the lead is as good as any other main section's is. Now the
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I see no guidance on this. Journal names are not to be capitalised, suggesting capitals are not encouraged - most likely because it looks ugly. Articles are to be consistent. If the Ernst chapter headings are in capitals I'd be happy to change them given that 'Chrysemys picta' is written throughout
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I agree on history or the like. You want a reference work (like Britannica) to have some of that stuff that is not topical. Need to have a solid bio on General Grant, not just Brittney Spears. I think for an animal, though, I would weight it higher. There's a reason why people want to know more
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Yes to a degree, but it is also an encyclopedia, that means we need to provide the capacity for people to look up anything, even the obscure, and we should put effort into all those pages, we all need to work on all types of pages within our expertise, its not a popularity poll for the editor. If a
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I would go off of page views for current article in wiki tool (can check multiuple months if you want) or google page ranking (try turtle and see what comes up). that shows what the interest is in. Wiki should have articles on what people are interested in. Yeah, maybe in some ideal sense people
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you have listed, leads to an entire group of turtles with much for people to discover about soft-shells, hence this is important, single species should be less important as they will be leading to less places and have a reduced need of information on the part of readers. Note I am not talking about
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as it is a major player in smuggling and a highly endangered species, individuals valued at US$ 20000, due to its use in Chinese medicine. Is this a pleasant reason, no, but a very important species it is in the fight against wildlife smuggling. So basically what I am saying is your most impirtant
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Your oppose !vote got undented. If you still wish to oppose, please make sure that the first line stars with #, and not :# or #:, as the first will break the numbering and the both will indent the post and make it seem like you withdrew the !vote. If you did wish to withdraw, then yes, intent, but
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Most journals that I know DO capitalize article titles (a few do not). Not sure where Mississippi-linker is coming from. Seriously, go check some. That said, it does vary. And I have no statistics. Newspapers and wiki articles in general don't. Books always do. Of course even if you follow
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thing and it seems to me about opinion which a fact about a business having a name is not. Looking at it from another angle coverage of the topic is suppose to be comprehensive. So that seems to indicate it should be in there. But then again other such topics don't seem to have it. Looking at
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to be in the best shape possible. Painted, Galapagos, and Loggerhead among other species have a wide range, thus more people are going to want to know about them. However, as Faendalimas has pointed out, it's not that simple. Plenty of non-species articles are critical to understanding the
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Yeah, I can understand if the winery is sizeable. I never investigated the subject like you. Will check it out tomorrow. I have no issue with state reptiles or any of it but the final two sentences and the final line about the restraurant seems more trivial then the line before. Regards,
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Secondly, you seem to be making the presupposition that because I hold opinions (of any form) in AfDs, I would make a poor administrator, because administrators are meant to be neutral. We all hold opinions and biases, regardless of userrights, and the fact that I have an opinion when
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There's a conglomeration of turtles in the 1972 Ernst book, all with their own "chapter" (not totally comfortable even calling them chapters). In any case, the heading before each turtle is in caps, I don't necessarily think we have to format the same way, but I truly don't know
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that are critically endangered, not in the wild or with only one individual living - most species of which I doubt you've heard of(I hadn't!). Being rare doesn't help the encyclopedic nature of it especially unless it's important for some reason so its name is known like the
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Wow, that's awesome! I have about another week of freedom before the spring semester starts, I'll see what I can work on (and if I can get the project passed...how long does that typically take and does someone have to come along and approve of it?). Thanks you,
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I think we're going for FL. There are a few books on this, I'm sure online sources will help fil in the gaps. Another problem is that the list may be changing: new states naming a reptile, others replacing ones they already have... We'll play it by ear.
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I asked him to take a look at the article. I think he stuck that note in before reading the whole thing. If we really did oversell the "BC aspect" than maybe he gives us valuable expertise. And we just cut it. Anyhow, hoping we can work through all of
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Press your finger on the area, like you do for copy/select text, hold until it's focused then move your finger down to scroll down or up to scroll up. It's kinda slow because it goes over each character and you can't make it scroll fast. Regards,
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or a turtle project would be a little different, but along the lines you give. Not all families are of much importance, especially if they have few members. Some of the turtle families don't have an article and are redirects i.e
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my former organisation's share of the vote. It is thus illogical that I would get involved due to political bias, and when involved, argue for the outcome which was diametrically opposed to those in my apparent bias's interests.
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Hello SunCreator! If you are interested, I would be very grateful if you could help to Peer Review Galapagos Tortoise. I have been working on it for a while and would really appreciate your input. Many thanks,
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Yes, I have thought about that, it was the reason to find out the popular pages - because from that you can better understand what is desirable for the portal. Also the book. Did you know I wrote a book ;-)
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Save it to your computer, open with MS Paint (can rightclick and that choice comes up), then there is a menu choice for flip (for me, it is under "rotate"). flip it. Save as (rename to mirror image) and
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Depends on the version of Paint perhaps - I rarely use to find out. At a guess the version with Windows XP converts to .BMP but later versions of Windows will leave/save files in jpg/jpeg. Regards,
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Those last two sentences make me uneasy as I've said before on the talk page. It seems trivial although I can't find any wiki policy against it. snookum said undue and after his edit I re-read the
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When I saw "Awarded to users who make significant and helpful contributions without seeking recognition or reward for their work," I thought of you. Truly phenomenal and tireless work over at
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scoring I seem to recall. Views have some problems like recentism and over focus on entertainment (TV,music,sex) subjects(i.e. Justin Beiber) at the downsize to encyclopedic articles . Regards,
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note it, think general public "cares"), and stripping all the weaker businesses. Let me see what NYM thinks too...just don't want to be changing back and forth as we get down to final days.
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If I may comment here. I think to assess importance it should be looking at how much the reader can discover from that page and its relevance worldwide. For example a family of turtles, eg
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See where your Creationwiki dalliance led? I found this great pic and added another ref. And was able to tie it into the description pretty tightly to make the words more understandable.
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companies registered you could find a matching name for most topics, but are they included like that in FA articles? It seems not. So you see I'm confused and uneasy about it. Regards,
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change. That fella lives up there and I sorta constructed an image in my mind of the liberal Canadian BC hippies loving their poor endangered turtles...but I overinterpreted.  ;-)
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journal pattern, sometimes they have the entire WORDS in caps, which we don't want to copy, so need to make a call. Sometimes checking table of contents (SunnyC's trick) can help.
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Not quick really, it took about 2 hours to create that list! Yes, I used to have a userbox with that. Still sometimes contributed with iPhone but not as much as before. Regards,
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Nothing much would happen either way. Are you looking to make this an FL. The subject makes it difficult, no enough coverage in sources would be my guess. Regards,
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Confusingly, Chelonia is also the name of a higher taxon, often used as a more inclusive group for Testudines and extinct turtle groups, or instead of Testudines.
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Sorry I'm just now joining in (when the conversation is 6 days old). When I think of the 'most important turtle articles', I think of articles that
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Thank you for taking a look. I have striked my keep per your comment. I'm not writing musician bio's so that is a pass on the userfication. Regards,
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Your welcome! Articles seem better now that they are getting organized. Easier to navigate and easier to understand how they fit together. Regards,
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Yeah, I saw that yesterday. If you're still intersted, I would keep an eye on that page, a GA attempt is imminent I believe. Thanks again, --
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I know you don't know who I am, but I've been a silent admirer of your work Lecen. When I get the chance, I shall drop a few comments.  :-)--
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On a related question. What should be italicized? Names that are genus, species and subspecies? What about families and subfamiles? Regards,
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testudine order, thus they should be a priority as well. It's a balancing act, let's just hope our circus has enough participants. :-P --
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Okay, sorry it doesn't work correctly. I've raised the issue of the bot not being deny compliant with the bot owner. Regards,
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score, one is improving it's quality(class) rating. Another is making sure it's linked from other relevant articles. Have now
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edit and while I couldn't see the exact 'Chrysemys picta' text the format of other species suggested it was that. Regards,
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also strike out the vote and, preferably, also leave a comment explicitly stating you withdrew the vote. Just an FYI.
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Thanks for staightening out that reference and circular concern. I woulda been stumped. Grappling with Chihuahua...
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In the table of contents at the front where it break up the sections. How is the section heading written? Regards,
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Upload as a derivative work of a file from Commons with new file name so that both left and right exist. Regards,
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turtle, but isn't exclusively about them (you already know this, just thinking out loud). We'll ask ZooPro? --
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Doesn't paint automatically convert it into a .bmp? I'll probably use Microsoft picture manager or something.
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is now a Featured Article candidate. Your opinion (either as support or oppose) is welcome. Here is the page:
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skeleton. Again, I just need the five supporters? There's no editor/committee I need to run it by first?--
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Thought I would reply here. Yeah, that was borderline exhausting. And thanks! I'll give it a shot.  :-)
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Up to you. I thought if your goingvto work on it then it might as well be in the turtle project. Regards,
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That program I talked about does that (uploads and marks it as derivative and all, keeping old version.)
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genera (i.e., where the genus has only one known species), use the genus name for the article title.
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P.s. Two more refs and we hit 150. Every time someone pushes me onto the net I find new stuff. :)
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Sorry for delay most of my edits are failing to save, so rewriting things again and again. Regards,
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A bit was cut from the lead. No problem, the word 'popular' was not referenced it seemed. Regards,
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Hey, random question: didn't you use to have a userbox that said you contributed with an iPhone?--
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as a basis at some point. Plenty to do and kinda maxed out on real life at the moment. Regards,
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person wants information on an unusual turtle they should be able to find quality information.
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I've moved Irwin's Turtle (capital T) to Irwin's turtle (lowercase t) per your request and
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edit(much of list removed. Apparently not accurate over small period of time. Re-examining:
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Ah, I suppose reading the page helps! :-P Alrighty, I'll do it now. Thank you so much!--
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Hello, I considered the sources that you uncovered but am not convinced that he yet meets
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Yes, I saw that. It's a great picta! ... and a webbed foot for the caption. ;-) Regards,
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If you use two fingers you can scroll fast. Thanks to User:Xeno for that tip. Regards,
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and select editing and make rows a bigger number like 80(my default) or more. Regards,
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Thank you. Yes, redirects are cheap, that is why I create so many of them :) Regards,
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For your work with mistagged BLPs, thank you! The list is now empty with your help.
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pages are portals (eg families) and iconic species at the worldwide scale. Cheers,
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Maybe it is best that it has both banners. We'll leave it and see what happens.--
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questions becomes is it noteworthy and encyclopedic? I should think it is, no?--
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Anniversary celebrations; Foundation reports; local language problems; brief news
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Anniversary coverage continues; Thai government translates Knowledge; brief news
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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I used paint and it left it .jpg. It all worked like a charm, thank you.  :-)
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public domain image? Or, if ya don't want to, can you tell me how you do it?--
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quality here. There are certain iconic species world wide that are important,
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edit, what should one do when the chapter title is in all caps? Is it still
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Yes! It worked! It is really slow though, but thank you for that.  :-)
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Upcoming steward elections, and a retrospective on stewards' work in 2010
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Thinking about doing it soon (between now and tomorrow). Will be called
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Yes, that is basically how I see it. Bear in mind the above list is the
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ranking, a system that ranks every article on Knowledge. Importance to
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the edit window? I've tried everything and I can't figure it out.
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In case you missed my post after your thanks....it appeared on the
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Haha. Well, the truth is I checked with Google books before I made
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World War II case comes to a close; ban appeal, motions, and more
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Okay, thanks for the special effort in letting me know. Regards,
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Two hours!? Okay, follow up question: how do you scroll down
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It seems I was to slow. The peer review is archived. Regards,
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an AfD does not mean I am going to utilise that opinion when
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Is it waving at us!? "...thank you for finding me!!!..."--
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Anniversary preparations, new Community fellow, brief news
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Page views are just a guide. It makes up about 1/3 of the
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My noggin is loquaciously taking in new words. Regards,
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etc.). I use GIMP because it's open source. Regards,
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No worries. Any other advice for me as I try this?--
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No problem!...sorry for the annoying orange bar, lol
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Regards, 2302:That helped out quite a bit. Thank you!-- 109: 1275:Ah, I see. A fine edit regardless.  :-) 1555:(not Xenoturbellidae or Xenoturbellida). 2023:Talking wicket with WikiProject Cricket 1152:Bump. Still working on this. Regards, 1131:Announcements/Community bulletin board 828:There are many turtles other then the 447:will be after you otherwise. Regards, 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2201:I replied as the Help desk. Regards, 1939: 1221:" was definitely wrong on my part).-- 7: 464:FYI on your oppose at Ironholds' RfA 389:Extended a webbed foot to SunCreator 1591:. I've left a redirect in place at 1582: 867:being an example, another would be 1731:I'll give it a shot, thanks TCO!-- 116:The Mistagged BLP Cleanup Barnstar 24: 2185:, I posted another reply there. — 1029:Also something else to consider: 675:Empire of Brazil FAC is now open! 625:Featured sound choice of the year 1870:Ah, okay. I used the same thing 1623: 396: 122: 29: 1822:What program is that? Regards, 1565:Nodocephalosaurus kirtlandensis 1052:? I shall restructure it using 2111:Hmmm, I don't know. 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