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I'm not trying to be difficult, but I do have some dispute with this deletion. In most cases, a significant number of votes is required to declare consensus for a deletion, but here the nomination and one other vote were enough to delete the category without any response being given to my comments.
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Hi, I have a question regarding the
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that might be of interest to you about the future of this project. There are two strawpolls on the talk pages and the second one is about the future of the WP:UW project. Now we have the end in sight we are looking at wrapping up the project and merging it with
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The trouble is "Psychics" alone can also be considered POV, hence changing it in the first place. I do personally agree that "Professed psychics" is slightly more neutral than either "Purported psychics" or "Psychics" alone. However I have no idea if others agree, yours was the only !vote for it,
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and creating a one stop shop for all userspace templates. As you have yourself down as interested in this project we thought you may have some input on this issue, and would like you to visit the discussion and give any thoughts you may have on the matter. Cheers
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Dear The Wub: I have copied your Wiki associational membership stuff into my own user page because it expresses my sentiments nicely. OK?
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