User talk:Timeineurope - Knowledge (XXG)

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Toro as some claim. Maybe the best evidence of this is the actor's official website, www.beniciodeltoro.com, which capitalizes the Del. In fact, only in Knowledge (XXG) have I seen Del Toro spelled del Toro. I truly baffles me why people continue to insist it is del Toro. Should we not go by how the name bearer, Benicio Del Toro himself spells his last name? Who are we to correct him otherwise (although he uses the correct spelling so there is no need for correction)? Yes, Guillermo del Toro is with a lower case del, but Benicio spells his name with an upper case Del. Why? It all depends in the family, country of origin of the family and the passing of time.--

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contradicting the pronunciation I have given, please cite it here. I am interested. If you have no source, then your deletion must have been made in ignorance and arrogance. A quick Google search returns numerous pages confirming that my pronunciation is correct (see below for some links). Please desist from removing this pronunciation from the article, because it is far from "dubious", and it is a vital component of the article. In the future, please check your facts before deleting valuable information from articles.

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A Mexican film will usually simply be in the Mexican variety of Standard Spanish, which is understood by people who speak the Spanish variety of Standard Spanish. Swiss German, on the other hand, is incomprehensible for someone who only speaks Standard German. Swiss German and Standard German are more different than many languages, and it's only by convention that they are most commonly regarded as dialects of one language rather than as two different languages. The line between language and dialect is a very blurry one.

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pronounce "Guillain-Barré" correctly in my workplace. I'm curious about your opinion on this matter. Do you think that the popular American pronunciation of "Guillain-Barré" (among medical professionals) has a place in this article, even though it is incorrect by French pronunciation standards? (I'd guess that you deal with this kind of issue frequently.)

3579:. The decision was to move it from Sacra corona unita to the proper capitalized Sacra Corona Unita. Unless you pretend to be more knowledgeable than the Encyclopædia Britannica, numerous academics, the BBC, the FBI, the Italian DIA and many others, your edit warring is rather silly. Grow up and accept that you are wrong in this case. OK? Thank you. - 4013: 284:, if being the important word, but there is no evidence for a resurvey anywhere that I know of. Do you have any evidence? I have asked someone else to look at some current maps and I will be in Ireland in 2 weeks so will also see when the latest maps were surveyed, but I have not heard of any major surveys in the last 30 years. 2138:

If the page is ever reverted (say, to clean out vandalism) and the old link is recreated, you're back to the dead link. Likewise, if anyone has created an external link to the page that depends on the old "bad" capitalization, you'll never even know that it's out there, much less have any ability to fix it.

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currently uses both spellings "by itself". For the sake of consistency, it needs to use just one. This can be accomplished either by changing the page title to conform to the rest of the article (but an attempt to do that just failed) or by changing the rest of the article to conform to the page title.

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Of course, you mean "deduce", not "deduct". And, theoretically, someone who never heard a news broadcast might rhyme "Bush" with "crush", while the pronunciation of "George" and "Walker" is far from intuitive (as can be seen from the different transliterations and pronunciations of "George", "Georg",

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You are wrong in many ways. First, the name is a common English name, and non-British English speakers will pronounce it in their own dialects. You must use an IPA conversion that is universal to English speakers. In any case, you are wrong about about the IPA rendering even in non-rhotic accents.

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Now, the ideal solution is for someone to quickly correct the link to the correct capitalization. But that often doesn't happen so someone builds a redirect instead. Even if you go back and correct all the inbound links and orphan the redirect, the old, "bad" link stays in the pagehistory forever.

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says that we should use the anglicized or local spelling depending on whether English does or not. Since the page title is not English, as is universally agreed, the name can be reasonably either anglicized or in italics; at the moment, it is anglicized by itself, and italicized in addresses. If you

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There is nothing strange about it. You completed 4 reverts in less than 24 hours. Had you been warned previously, you would have just been blocked instead of only warned this time. The fact that you have started discussing it now on the talk page, does not give you license to continue to make your

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teb728 was in favour of a completely different system, for which there was no support. He suggested using an r modifier or a rhotic hook in lieu of parentheses, but nobody voiced their support of that. His dislike of parentheses is no different from Kwami's dislike of them, Kwami did find them OK in

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TE, it looks like you've misunderstood Kwami's statement (perhaps he should have been clearer). It's pretty obvious that Kwami is against the parentheses given the context of his active support of attempts to create a "dialect-neutral" transcription--with which the parentheses would be at odds--and

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It's better to have an inconsistent article that tells us one film is in Swiss German but neglects to tell us that another film is in Palestinian Arabic than to have a consistent article that doesn't tell us that that film is in Swiss German. Also note that you are comparing apples and oranges here:

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It's as simple as this: No matter how a name is spelt, you can never with certainty deduct the pronunciation from the spelling. Even the most straightforward-looking name might be pronounced in an unexpected fashion. And non-native speakers may be much better at reading English than pronouncing it.

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The reason why the edit summary 'restore ref' made no sense was that I hadn't deleted the reference – it hadn't been there in your version. If you now think it's important to include the reference after all, I'm OK with that (and have edited the article accordingly), but you can hardly expect me to

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2. The corrected pronunciation is a significant improvement over simply deleting the pronunciation that you deemed "dubious". My pronunciation, though slightly incorrect (most readers probably won't understand the difference between my pronunciation and yours), was a significant improvement over a

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First of all, I am against the use of phonemic transcription on Knowledge (XXG). We transcribe a gazillion languages here, and if we do it phonemically, readers will have to know the phonology of a gazillion languages in order to understand the transcriptions. If we do it phonetically, readers will

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has lost 7 feet in the last 10 years when it has been that height to my knowledge and on my ordinance survey maps going back 40 years, there is something wrong here. Lugnaquilla is 3093 feet which is 926+ meters and if you search online for Lugnaquilla and 3039 feet you get many more hits than with

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Hi, I see you have been adding adding pronunciation to articles, especially German ones. That's very worthwhile! Would you be interested in adding them to German opera-related pages? If so, I could perhaps suggest some some lists of articles to work on - assuming you have time to take it on. Thanks

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article on Knowledge (XXG) would require an IPA pronunciation. Not only is there no indication, in spelling or otherwise, that "George Walker Bush" would be pronounced any other way than the common words "George" "Walker" and "Bush" but you'd be hard pressed to find readers unfamiliar enough with

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expressed opposition to parentheses as well. But I think we're getting a little caught up in an unconstructive game of who-said-what-when. The page doesn't reflect an acceptance of parentheses. Period. Not everybody has seen the talk page and so the agreement by silence (which is a pretty weak

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people! Several of us put the IPA English chart together; if you don't like it, discuss it on the talk page before you start insisting on your way of doing things. Your edits, frankly, look like a mess. Are we really going to transcribe a word like "bear" (/bɛ(ə)(ɹ)/)? If everyone agrees with you,

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Although it was the consensus up until the 14th century that the planet was flat, this was not the case. In fact, it was round. Just because there is consensus does not mean that something is correct. Del Toro with a capitalized Del is the correct spelling of Benicio Del Toro's name. It is not del

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The point is that someone obviously thought "Voßstraße" was English enough for the page title, and if it's English enough for the page title, it's English enough for the rest of the article. The rest of the article must defer to the page title. The page title is part of the article, so the article

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There is only one way to interpret "it won't matter if we use parentheses in the articles". Kwami has obviously changed his opinion since then, but that doesn't also change the consensus. In the sentence I quoted above, Kwami is contrasting using parentheses in the articles (which he is OK with)

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1. Although neither of the pronunciations you have offered match that of the professional medical community in my area (Wichita, Kansas, USA), I suppose it is conceivable that they are all pronouncing it wrong. They are not phoneticians. In fact, it might actually be distracting or confusing to

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3032 or 924 and 925. I have a special Army map of the Glen of Imaal range and it show 3039 too. I think somebody got that web page wrong. Maybe someone can go an look at the current OS maps of Ireland and see what they say. Even the online maps of Getamap, based on the OSINI show 925 and not 924

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page, there is no doubt in my mind about the correct pronunciation of "Guillain-Barré". I work with physicians in clinical research at a hospital, and everyone that I know who has a proper medical education pronounces this term the way I have transcribed it in the article. If you have a source

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film. In my opinion, if we do so, the tables will become totally unreadable. The article is currently nominated as a Featured List Candidate, and there are people who are complaining that the tables already contain too much information. Therefore, please stop reverting my edit each time I remove

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Hello Timeineurope, on this page you state quite correctly: "not complete and accurate" is not a direct quote from Balkenende's letter nor from a translation thereof, it comes from a Government.nl news item that doesn't quote the letter directly. You would have been quite right in reverting the

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Which Knowledge (XXG) are you using? There is no self-contradiction in the English version, as far as I can see; it appears to be the only mention of the pronunciation. Yet you would redirect readers who are unfamiliar with the IPA to the inaccessible main article, the one readers have been

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I was not completely clear during that discussion. Go and Search are two of the navigational features and they do have specific (and slightly different) rules about capitalization but they are not the only ways that our users have to navigate. Some of the other techniques can also be

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Timeineurope, thanks for clarifying the Duden issue. Since you have a copy of Duden, could you please add a direct citation to the article? (i.e. page number(s), publisher info and ISBN) It'd be much better than just citing a webpage (the reference to which we can keep, just in case).

2659:. I don't have to be the one that originally included the reference you deleted in order to 'restore' it, but I was, so either way you once again appear disconnected from reality. Arrogance isn't the worst fault in an editor, but you might want to ensure that you at least deserve it. 2403:

Ah, if you have another source, that's a different matter. We can raise that on the talk page to see what other people have heard. (Of course, 'heard on TV' doesn't necessarily mean 'heard from s.o. who knows'.) Otherwise you're just assuming incompetency on the part of the source we

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He didn't object to it, which he would have done had he disagreed (I did give him a couple of days to reply, which he didn't). The title isn't 'blatantly wrong', it is in line with Knowledge (XXG) precedence, which is to keep the original capitalisation of non-English names, as with

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Pronunciations shouldn't be dialect specific unless they need to be, unless we want to go around and add everyone's dialect to every word that has its pronunciation indicated. Americans can merge RP vowels, and RP speakers can drop their aitches and ars. Thus the /slashes/.

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I'm looking at that section in the archives; while I see a few people on either side of the issue, I don't see Kwami agreeing to it. Can you quote what he says that makes you believe he agreed to parentheses? This might be the result of a misunderstanding. —

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think the ars are required in all those articles which lack parentheses." So in October, Kwami found that parentheses are acceptable in articles even though they're not in the chart, and nobody has voiced their disagreement since, so this is clearly consensus.

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Phonetic transcriptions may be unambiguous, but they're too dialect specific for Knowledge (XXG). Your transcription of Strabane may fit with how conservative RP speakers say it but I seriously doubt it's how people from Strabane say it, nor is it how I say

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I've noticed that you have a practice of infixing your responses within the body of others' comments. This can get confusing, especially after a few weeks or months and for people just joining the conversation. I suggest that you do something like this:

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even in phonemic transcription and prefer transcriptions on Knowledge (XXG) to be phonetic. Readers who know IPA should be able to understand our transcriptions right away, without having to consult an account of our idiosyncratic transcription system.

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for an IPA pronunciation. Pardon me, but could you please show some trust in good faith of knowledgeable users? The pronunciation is there for readers' convenience, not as a potentially contentious fact. FYI, the Serbian phonetic system is described at

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I see that you have come back to start a new edit war on the article page. The consensus was not to make the change you suggest. Also, editors believed that your IPA transcription is wrong. I suggested a compromise. Please stop edit warring. --

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prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the

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complaining about for years. What I am trying to do here more than anything is help make Knowledge (XXG) more accessible. Having you constantly making it less accessible, apparently out of laziness, is the main reason I keep reverting you.

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TI, your dismissive attitude is getting annoying. Of course I make mistakes, some out of ignorance and some out of oversight, and I welcome your help. But sometimes you make mistakes as well, such as adding stress to French or using

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articles, teb728 did not voice an opinion on the specific question of having them in articles but not in the chart. – If "not everybody has seen the talk page" were a valid argument, consensus would never exist on Knowledge (XXG).

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and have no firm views either way (there seem to be equally strong examples on each side: e.g. LaGuardia Community College's LaGuardia archives). Could you elaborate on your views not here but at the La Guardia discussion page?

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Actually, your creating all sorts of messes for me to clear up is getting annoying. If you make an error, of course I will undo it rather than let it stay. That doesn't mean I suddenly have a duty to contribute further to the

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Looks like I thought about it too long. I was just headed over to vote in favour of the move, having convinced myself that the "common use" argument didn't really win in this case, IMO. Oh well. Thanks for the heads up.

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The notion that articles can't be moved without a preexisting consensus is simply wrong and has never been policy. Articles get moved without discussion all the time, and that's perfectly fine. To move the article back to

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It doesn't follow that if I didn't have another source, I would be assuming incompetency on the part of the sources in the article. Those sources may be perfectly competent, it's just that they are ambiguous as to whether

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See the talk page; the chief argument for the present title is that the street has no name in English at all, and we should therefore use German spelling for the name of the article, although English more often uses

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conventions, like numerals for tone. If I make an error, I would appreciate it if you corrected it rather than simply reverting to something that is also incorrect. And if you were to explain what you're doing, I'd

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is something else completely. I inserted a different IPA transcription this time, hopefully addressing the concern of the one editor who considered the last one wrong (but refused to say what was wrong about it).

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I understand your perspective. It would just be really nice if the page reflected whatever consensus we have. You and Kwami seem to have stopped reverting on these particular pages, so it's not as immediate an

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argument in and of itself) could very well be an agreement to the absense of parentheses. The issue should be brought up again in the talk page and the help page edited to reflect any change in agreement. —

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If these mountains have been resurveyed recently, that would explain the discrepancies: the easy-to-update OSi page would give the new heights, maps published before the resurveys would give the old heights.

3598:, and there was no consensus to move (that is, an admin found that there was but changed his mind after I talked to him). It is not acceptable to move an article in the face of a recent failed move request. 1810:

Your claim that the tables will become totally unreadable is baseless, and as for the people complaining that the tables already contain too much information, pay no attention to them, they are simply wrong.

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is the spelling used in Arthur Mann's book, the biographies by Alyn Brodsky, H. Paul Jeffers, and Ronald H. Bayor, and his autobiography – to which I can add the biography by Mervyn Kaufman, Ernest Cuneo's

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I am not wrong about the IPA rendering in non-rhotic accents. And while an 'IPA conversion that is universal to English speakers' is not something I 'must use', last time I did provide a transcription with

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Reverted your IPA for Los Altos Hills as that wasn't the dictionary.com transcription that you cited. I don't understand why a phonemic transcription would require two variants; it would seem to avoid it.

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for the latter film, probably because I had removed it during a previous edit that you didn't notice). However, after carefully reading the article several times, I noticed that it wasn't coherent to put

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It's perfectly reasonable to expect people to pronounce "Chiodos" two different ways (although all the sources seem to confirm that the "kee-" pronunciations are incorrect, but that's another matter). -

3707:"Jorge", "Georges", etc.) On the other hand, someone sophisticated enough to master IPA would be extremely unlikely to be ignorant of the correct English pronunciation of "George Bush" or even "walker". 1476:

The IPA you added was clearly wrong, but I'm not sure what the ideal transcription would be. It would be naive to think that one could arrive at a correct IPA transcription by listening to a sound file.

1075:, sourced from two reliable sources (Moren and Alt & Browne ). You don't really expect us to hunt probably non-existing sources where pronunciation of "Ratko Mladić" is explained in IPA, do you? 2173:"Baseless accusations of vandalism will get you nowhere." You're right, it was rude of me to say "vandalism" and I apologise. It was, however, a reversion of an edit I made that did the following: 3396:, and that became the conclusion of the debate (I was in favour of using parentheses; Kwami found their use in articles didn't matter as long as they weren't in the chart; nobody else chimed in). 2682:

guess that a reference that you yourself didn't include in a previous version (even though it had been in the article before that) now would make the difference between a POV and an NPOV article.

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English? (Both sources are American, so British or other pronunciations wouldn't apply.) Every dictionary I've looked in includes on one pronunciation for the word "dose", and it's with /s/.

2107: 3786: 3229:) that you've been continually reincluding parentheses around /r/. I understand what you're trying to convey, but this goes against the method of transcription that we've got laid out at 910:

Oh. You said they go against all available sources, but I've never heard anything but that pronunciation for E.R., and hers is a very common name. Ustinov too is often pronounced with a .

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Moved a lengthy section on a minor inconsistency (surname) that included original research ("it is assumed this is the correct spelling") to a footnote that is accessible from the lead.

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Russian /ʑː/ is a marginal phoneme, and is perhaps formal, but жжёшь "you burn" is reported to have it. Of course, if you can find a more accessible example, that would be preferable.

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Again, I appeal to common sense. "George", "Walker" and "Bush" are words so common that it is unreasonable to assume that readers will think they are pronounced in any other way. —

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Ah, I see. is indeed pronunciation of the common word "mladić" (young man). The surname has different accent. It's a common pun, a couple of times abused by sensationalist media — "

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Then we need to indicate that these aren't the normal pronunciation of the names. I think it's great to have historically accurate information, but it should be labeled as such.

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Come on, TI, the IPA doesn't even match the chart that you're helping to write. There is no /e/ in English, as we're notating it, there's /ɛ/ and /eɪ/. Right now it looks like

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Sorry for not being clearer. I was trying to widen the discussion beyond just considering Search and Go. Redirects do much more than merely support the search engine.

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If that's her personal pronunciation, one that hardly anyone else uses, than that should be clarified in the article, or people like me will think it's an error. As for

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Since our readers know English, a phonemic representation is appropriate. It wouldn't be for other languages, except in articles about those languages. (Sorry, typo.)

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No encyclopaedia uses different spellings of the same word within an article. This general principle overrides any "complex compromise" that may have been "secured at

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It was you alone who "put the IPA English chart together", the only other person contributing to its transcription system was Angr, and all that user did was change

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incorrect edit, but apparently you have not yet done so. Just forgotten? Or did something go wrong technically? I suppose you are going to make this revert as yet.

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Actually, you may be right, though the person who added the pronunciation to the article was just guessing. I would appreciate it, however, if you wouldn't remove

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to a general phonetic one? Since you've changed articles on both Brits and Yanks, it doesn't seem to be an attempt to impose a specifit regional pronunciation.

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Commenter B: That's assuming you like classic rock, which I don't. Even the most objective person would agree that Guns N' Roses is the best band in the world.

3817:, through which it is suggested that we remove "prince" from royals with substantive titles. The proposal was "passed" after 12 days, with the input of only 3388:

with having them in the chart (which he is against), so obviously their absence from the current version of the chart is irrelevant. While Kwami was never a

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That is to say, copy the portion of the comment you wish to address and paste it at the bottom (or at least between comments) and italicize it. Regards. —

2452:"dose" had multiple pronunciations -- and I still believe that when someone says "It's pronounced 'dose'", they mean like the word. (By the way, many people 1709: 3488:

I recommend that, pending further discussion, neither of you should edit/revert a pronunciation over just the inclusion or removal of parentheses. Deal? —

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pages upsets editors (as you can see). Best to colaborate with you fellow editors IMHO. I can't (and won't) tell ya what to do; I can only give advice.

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is pronounced or, say, . I do have a source where pronunciation of "Mladić" is given in IPA, and it contradicts the transcription given in the article.

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in the "Language(s)" column (the previous version of the article was a total mess and did not even list each film's respective language). I simply put

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Cross-wiki links sometimes also deal with capitalization differently than the Knowledge (XXG) engine does. Wiktionary, for example, would consider

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It seems that we will have to disagree on this one, then, as I continue to find that the page does indeed "reflect an acceptance of parentheses".

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Your last edit consisted in removing the footnote altogether, hardly a 'compromise'. Any consensus concerned inserting a pronunciation into the

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Lexically it doesn't even have phonetic stress, only prosodic intonation to the phrase. We're giving the pronunciations of individual words.

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No idea what is going on here but I protected this article for a week considering the edits of the last few days. I probably protected the

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was written by one user apparently with no discussion and carries no special weight. What is the intended meaning of your second sentence?

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The idea that reverting an erroneous edit gives the reverting editor a duty to work further on the article is still as ridiculous as ever.

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If a pronunciation respelling says that a syllable is pronounced "burn", one should be able to expect that it is pronounced like the word

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complete lack of any pronunciation transcription. I maintain that it should never have been removed until it could be properly replaced.

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3. John Wells' blog is very helpful. I've taken only an introductory course in French phonetics. So many rules, so many exceptions....

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Please - Wiki style says only link the first mention of something - inserted four links to Rodgers and Hammerstein is no neccessary!!

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would prefer to change the balance, please discuss it on the talk page. If this were a no-brainer, no one would disagree with you.

3757: 1467:? It seems odd to revert it to the "need IPA" tag. Wouldn't it be better to correct any errors? We have the sound file right there. 1712:

article. I have been working on a new version of this article for a couple of weeks now, and I myself am the one who initially put

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I was being generous. I reverted twice, and incorporated your objections into the footnote twice. You simply reverted four times.

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It is hardly safe to assume that readers know enough about English pronunciation to be able to use your transcriptions correctly.

3233:. You may have disagreements with the absence of the parentheses but revert warring is improper. So stop. Get a consensus at 2537:

back in November. The sources you cite above disagree among themselves, giving at least three different pronunciations, and not

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to be different words. (At Wiktionary, propercase titles are sometimes but not always redirected to the lowercase version.)

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really have a flapped ar in it? Is that how it's pronounced in the UK, with a flap that doesn't occur in any other word? And

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from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a

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on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out

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can be pronounced either way is sufficient ground for uncertainty, there are several other reasons why I'm not sure how

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were at 18:15, 29 September (UTC), 17:03, 29 September (UTC), 16:06, 29 September (UTC), and 15:26, 26 September (UTC).

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arrested in Belgrade" in big letters on the front page; of course, it's about a young man arrested for whatever crime.

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editors. I strongly encourage you to take part in the discussion such that a properly-agreed solution can be reached.

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As for the spelling of her surname, that's an important enough subject to deserve its own section. I've addressed the

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I suppose that's the source of the confusion, then. (My source explicitly gives as the pronunciation of the surname.)

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I created the page, but it was in discussion long before that, and I actually contributed very little to its content.

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But are there sources that specifically say to use a hyphen? By the way, I didn't change 'numerous' pages, just two.

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A citation that proves that it really has the unexpected pronunciation dids-BURY instead of the expected DIDS-bury.

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The reason I have tagged all those transcriptions with {{citation needed}} is that I suspect they are all wrong.

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People may be so good at English that they could write a book in the language without knowing that the word

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You can make that argument if it ever comes up at arbitration. Who knows, they might even agree with you.

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For a discussion of the pronunciation, see world-renowned phonetician and pronunciation dictionary author

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I see your point now -- I think I misunderstood what you'd said. It seemed to me that you were saying the

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Thanks for fixing St. Teath. It was pretty clearly representing the opposite, so good thing we caught it.

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You've convinced me, and I've started adding stress to entries which didn't have it, not because they're

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to be given, as both are found in dictionaries and neither is more supported by the local pronunciation.

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TE, you are evidently not capable of keeping count yourself, or you wouldn't have gone over last time.

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originally didn't include, so your edit summary 'restore ref' made no sense), just your other changes.

2372:. Even when transcribing phonetically or phonemically, it happens that people use for or /s/ for /z/. 437: 171: 48: 2063:

is the correct Greek pronunciation of Calathes. It's Ka-laa-this, both "a" being pronounced like in "f

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I applaud your clarification that the standard U.S. pronunciation of "thorough" rhymes with "furrow."

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That seems a very strange thing for you to have done. What kind of a citation are you looking for? --

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Transcriptions like /ˈbɛ(ə)(ɹ)/ are only necessary if you insist on providing only one transcription.

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The bot is currently changing "citation needed" to "citations needed" for no apparent reason, eg at

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I noticed that you placed a lot of {{fact}} tags on Daniosh related pages. I do not know much about

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is the sort of article that people might only read parts of, which is why I inserted three links to

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I notice that you placed a {{fact}} tag after the IPA representation of the village's name in the

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Additionally, you provided no reason(s) for your first reversion. I have therefore reverted this

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Readers expect the pronunciations we give to be able to stand alone. Without stress, they can't.

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If it were "universally agreed" that "the page title is not English", the article wouldn't be at

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To use in that position was perfectly common back in Florence Nightingale's day. While the

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I notice you are working on Germany related articles. Maybe I can invite you to look by our

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The sentence is not grammatically inaccurate – it doesn't say that Jennifer Aniston played

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I didn't break the three-revert rule. My 02:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC) edit was not a revert.

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is that also his personal pronunciation, or local dialect? Otherwise it should be /ɛ/.

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My edit consisted of removing the quotation marks around "not complete and accurate".

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I had given a detailed explanation on the talk page of why the reverts were necessary.

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to an article when you make your unexplained corrections. It isn't that difficult.

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Can you provide a source for the claim that "dose" can be pronounced with /z/ in

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the absense of parentheses from the current version of the actual help page. —

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Commenter C: They're not broken up. They're just haven't made any new records.

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It's hardly an improvement when the article suddenly contradicts itself on how

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Any particular instance of a word will not, in general, occur at the end of a

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The most common local pronunciation has the accent on the last syllable, yes.

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I dispute that an obscure aside that such a transcription, if used, would be

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No, twice I accommodated your objections into what Aeusoes1 and I agreed on.

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case-sensitive. For example, standard links are completely case sensitive.

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Removed a fictional birthdate that can be deduced only by original research.

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have stress. Not phonemic stress, but we're doing phonetic transcription.

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Again, a claim that he is wrong without saying how. I'm curious myself.

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has it straight from the horse's mouth, people wouldn't necessarily use

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the spelling with a hyphen, it doesn't provide a discussion of whether

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Could you tell me why you reverted a phonemic English pronunciation of

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No, that source (which is notorious for its many inaccuracies) simply

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as pronounced by himself; he was from London, where they speak with a

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Where is the "r" sound in the second syllable? It should end: ɚt --

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Unfortunately the page you are using at the OSI is inaccurate. Unless

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While you were writing this, I was writing about the same subject at

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You're taking pronunciation respellings to be as precise as the IPA?

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The British Royal family source (I thought). More importantly visit

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Any French utterance, including a name, will contain at least one

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should be interpreted as consensus on how to transcribe English.

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Try looking up 'restore' in the dictionary. Here, I'll help you:

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Please do not delete references that do not conform to your POV.

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time? It would be nice if you were to explain what you're doing.

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is now somewhere between and but closer to , it was closer in

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There is currently an open Request for Comment on User Conduct

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because that was what IMDb cited as the languages of the films

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As for 'Melbourne', can you think of a monosyllabic word that

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I haven't questioned anyone's good faith. There is nothing at

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect

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Please do not meddle with the complex compromise secured at

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of those six sources supports the pronunciation I removed.

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Hello, Timeineurope ! Please stop inserting references to

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Whatever the pronunciation is, let's make it unambiguous.

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Commenter A: Led Zeppelin is the best band in the world.

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It violates the three-revert rule either way ('An editor

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before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!

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only have to know the International Phonetic Alphabet.

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Do the middle syllables really have different vowels?

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the gentleman to need to give the pronunciation. —

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Finally, the band's name is inspired by the surname

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therefore a word will not, in general, have stress.

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Your system would require both the pronunciation of

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Hi, both Nöörje and Nøørje are correct according to

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www.painprevention.net/guillainbarre_syndrome_.aspx

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