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course triangularsunset is a spammer! How would you say I started a personal attack? Did I call you a name? Or is this another false accusation like you calling me a spammer. The behavior I am witnessing here seems like paranoia, especially when someone like James drops in and questions it all. A witchhunt if you will that may make you feel like you're defending wikipedia when in fact a culture no one would want to be a part of is being perpetuated (hence the decline in interest in being an editor)...who would want to join a community where they do a lot of hard work only to be spoken to like this: "You have to accept that newbie..."
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several articles. I did not see any of the unmistakable signs of people who come here to spam links into articles, such as persistently adding links either to jut one site or to a very small number of sites, or such as adding fake references that don't support the content they are attached to. If you really do have convincing reasons to believe that the edits were spam then the block should stay, but I honestly cannot see anything that couldn't be easily good faith attempts to improve the referencing of the articles, or (less often) to improve their content.
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newbies without teaching, but i had not experienced that until now. I hope this case can be archived and used as demonstration of how someone like me can make what seemed to be good edits only to have the whole account blocked when i did so much work. I will say it makes me not want to ever contribute again...which you would probably be happy about if I were making a mistake everytime, but then are you saying @JamesBWatson is wrong?
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close to being reason enough to shut down my account. It's a pretty extreme reaction, I think, perhaps akin to me likening the Knowledge community to Nazis who can't tolerate anything beyond the ideal they set for themselves. But, alas, that is not the case, because I can at least leave without getting gassed (though I can't say the same for my account).
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James: I appreciate your thorough examination, and the time it took, not to mention the courage required to voice an unpopular opinion amidst the feeding frenzy. I understand that some of the links I referenced were not from mainstream publications, but I don't think that constitutes spam, nor comes
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I still don't understand your first warning before i got blocked, i was adding references that went straight to a glossary that supported what i was referencing. Over my 100 edits, i thought i had added some great value, and by the way that site was not for sale when i posted. Sometimes the content
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it seems obvious what James was thinking, don't you think? He said clearly that he reviewed many of my edits and they look fine. Is James a trusted and experienced editor? If yes, then why don't you respect that defense? Sounds like i am a case of confirmation bias...newbies must be spammers so of
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thank you for noticing that in not one single edit is there any evidence that i spammed. i will admit i am new to this and i thought i was finding pages that supported a fact or mention of something on wikipedia pages. i don't see how any of it is commercial, the sites that Dr. K mention included.
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Can either of you clarify why you think this editor's edits have been spam? I have checked a large number of the edits, and it seems to me that the vast majority of the links were references to web sites which genuinely did support content to which they were attached. I found a few exceptions, but
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also, you said i must not understand what is link spam, commercial, etc...I would agree with you about that, if JamesBWatson had not just said what i was doing except a few mistakes were fine, so now i'm feeling very attacked. I had read the veteran editors on wikipedia were vicious about banning
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You got a final warning, because by the time I had detected your activity, you had already serially spammed the "99centrazor.com" link to a large number of shaving-related articles, as well as other spam links to other articles, and you had to be stopped. But, even after my level-4 warning you
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the film, but that kind of mistake is very common indeed among editors with limited experience. Also, although in some cases there were numerous links to the same web site, in all cases that I saw that could be explained by the simple fact that the web sites in question had content relevant to
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the page i referenced supported this: television series created by Laeta Kalogridis....same with every one of the others...not sure why you are claiming them to be spam? a) what do they promote, and does not the referenced page support whatever associated statement in the wiki-article...please
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If it is deemed that this entire account is set up as a spam account, can someone delete all of my edits? And the entire account. I would rather have it all deleted than have this indefinitely blocked and labelled a spam account...
1296:? As far as James, there is nothing wrong with him having an opinion. Everyone has an opinion. Trust or experience has nothing to do with their opinion being accepted automatically just because they are trusted or experienced. 265:, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the 1335:. Most of the links looked like spam to me. If you feel I am in error, please feel free to unblock. That is the purpose of having another admin review the block after all. Thanks, -- 1160:
on the pages i sited had to be accessed by scrolling down, but it all seemed right to me. I had studied how other references were used and i thought i was doing the exact same thing.
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reason to be unblocked is because not one link has been spam, compare my references to the others and they are in line, review requested of all my edits
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they looked like good faith mistakes rather than spamming: for example in one edit Triangularsunset linked to a Netflix film rather than to a source
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If you genuinely believe a website whose URL ends in "fabian-strategy-in-business.html" is a reliable source that can improve our coverage of
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I had read the veteran editors on wikipedia were vicious about banning newbies without teaching, but i had not experienced that until now.
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The great majority of this account's edits were adding spam sources to articles. This user has repeatedly spammed websites such as "
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Well, it is evident that I was a lone voice crying in the wilderness, with an unmistakable consensus that you were spamming.
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Hello, Triangularsunset. It has been over six months since you last edited the
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Do I really have to remind you that calling editors "vicious" is a very nasty
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continued your spamming. This shows a continuing inability to comply with the
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Enough of that nonsense. Talk page access revoked. --
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So, it is a big deal to see my whole account blocked.
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guidelines of this wiki, ergo the indefinite block.
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