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No. I simply read the user's statement here, read the linked section, and concluded that the user was misinterpreting (possibly by mistake, possibly on purpose, no evidence one way or the other) what the CheckUser wrote. Since the user presented no reason to doubt that they are the same person, short
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I never said that being in (or "appearing to be in") the same city as another editor means anything. You claimed that the accounts were claimed to be unrelated, I checked the relevant page, and it says there that you could be - since the 2 of you "appear to be located in the same city". Not being a
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Thanks for your very civil acceptance of my apology, and I hope you enjoy many interesting discussions and creative opportunities in your future career on Knowledge (XXG). (Not sure why my earlier comment removed some of yours; I didn't realize it had until I saw your correctionl.)
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I don't know what those old IPs were, and you should know better than to ask that I reveal personal information in any case. Your concerns regarding proxies should have been addressed by the fact that 2 Check user requests have already been run, finding no proxies.
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I wasn't using any account except (briefly) an IP before registering with my own identity as Betsythedevine. Would you care to make a similar disclosure? I do apologize for mistaking you for a sockpuppet-user that Checkuser says you are not.
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I don't know if you are aware, but that's hardly the only evidence against you. I'm sure there are plenty of other people in Chengdu who edit; most of them have not been suspected of being sockpuppets of other users. —
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but held off on the report to see how the RSN played out. And it just seemed rude as you are the only editor actually shouldering the burden of proof for the issues at question. Ah well.
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I don't know if you are aware, but Chengdu has more than 15 million people in it, so being in (or "appearing to be in") the same city as another editor doesn't mean much in this case.
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Appreciate & accept your apology. Like you, I have edited as an IP for a while, prior to registering an account. Hope we can put this episode behind us and get back to editing.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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As I understand the admin back then decided that there is not enough evidence to block this user.There are probably some new evidence that was sent to
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When new editors jump right into AfDs and ANIs, they often remind people of other older users. Such is the case with your account and Shuki's:
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by mail.And as I proposed before to the blocked user its probably better to deal with such private information by mail.BTW did you contacted
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/NoCal100/Archive#Clerk.2C_CheckUser.2C_and.2For_patrolling_admin_comments_3
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Mind sharing that IP to dispel any rumors that you're merely a proxy-using sockpuppet? I suppose it must have plenty of edits on it.
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CheckUser myself, and trying to understand the way they come to there conclusions, I would guess that this would make it an
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of the CheckUser report, I saw no reason to look any farther once it was clear that the user's statement was wrong.
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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that was created to violate Knowledge (XXG) policy. Note that multiple accounts are
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shuki#08_January_2011
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That's a very interesting approach. So, if I check out an editor such as
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I am not a NoCal sock pupper - this was already checked by CU ([
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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please
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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please
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Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shuki#08_January_2011
betsythedevine
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jumped right into an AfD
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Two for the show
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