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pre 2014 we used to have the table in (temporary) alphabetical order for up to two years until the entry list would be published at the start of the season and we could change the table to numerical order. That's quite some time as well, yet it was still temporary (or preliminary if you prefer that wording). The only reason why I call this temporary because it's subject to a change at a preset time, just like the alphabetical order in the pre 2014 situation. It has nothing to do with the period of time we use it.
2625:. The Strategy Group meetings are nothing official beyond proposals. All of what they have agreed to has not been passed by the WMSC. Furthermore, the event article should pertain solely to the event. When the discussion regarding 2015 Australia and van der Garde's legal challenge was going on, it was agreed that it had a place in the event article because the court's ruling directly impacted a team's line-up (despite later being settled). These strategy meetings do not impact 2015 Monaco in the slightest.
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variable will result in the same or similar outcome. But although Rossi has been dropped by the team twice in the past, consider the circumstances: at Spa, it was because
Chilton paid up, whereas in Sochi, it was because the team elected not to run a second car out of respect for Bianchi. So where is your evidence that he will be dropped this time around? WP:F1 policy has always held the position that teams will follow through on their stated intentions, and that we cannot we cannot reasonably predict
4217:. It's a community-wide agreement. If you disagree with the criteria, you're free to raise the issue there. So yes, that actually IS how Knowledge (XXG) works. Also, Senna has been and is rated Top, so I don't know why you're accusing me of changing that. The French GP, thanks for pointing that out. The event hasn't been held since 2008, which hardly falls under recentism at all, and since it's been nearly a decade, it's hardly ever-present. The only case could
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number order issue and the local language race title argument (you might need to dig around a bit)âyou will see that he frequently falls back on OWN when he is not getting his way. This is not the proper way to conduct a debate, especially when you wheel it out on your second edit, as you did on the MP4-30 article. Making an accusation about OWN so soon, based on behaviour alone and without any evidence in support of it means you presume to know
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marker board. Again though your edit reflected/re-interpreted that this was intentional when the source made no such mention. Post-race content goes in the post-race section if it needs to be created. This is pretty standard among the race articles in the F1 WikiProject. And if you need to hear it then I hearby recant my original claim of biased editing. But the fact remains the content as presented is inappropriate for an encyclopedia.
1288:. I had removed the Hockenheimring from the article after it had been added without a source. Then I was searching for the best way to represent the current situation within the article, because the only sources I could find stated that no contract was signed yet, with negotiations going on. Obviously, you beat me to it, but I have to say you got it spot on. You've presented a clear view of the situation. Thanks for that.
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698:. Accusing somebody of OWN should be a last resort, not a first optionâand if you're going to do it, back it up with something the person you are accusing has said. It's very difficult to make a convincing case for OWN based on behaviour alone, especially if you are engaged with that user in a content debate. Without direct evidence, it looks like you are accusing someone of OWN to try and shut them up and get your way.
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couldn't fly due to the weather was not strictly true, or at least very vague. No doubt it'll be cleared up later, but for now it's a little odd. The mainstream media have widely repeated the FIA claim that it couldn't fly, with only a couple of sources actually questioning that, since it did fly after all. Hopefully we can simplify the prose when we have more facts, and also let's hope, better news.
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1000:, the requirement to use twitter as a source is that the tweet most from the person from the person or entity and must claim something about themselves. For instance, a driver tweeting on his/her official account that (s)he has signed a contract to drive or a team tweeting on their official account what their new chassis will be.
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kind of math formula. In reading the article top to bottom, I did think that in the section regarding Alonso's testing accident, perhaps it should be noted that while McLaren did not find telemetry data substantiating Alonso's claims of a steering failure, the car was outfitted to prevent a locking steering column anyway.
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The problem with articles on future seasons is that they tend to be a magnet for unsourced speculation and vandalism. We created the 2016 season article around this time last year after a considerable discussion. The rationale for creating it at that time was that during the summer period information for the
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assuming what everyone is thinking) when actually everyone who has spoken up have said they really don't care because it's a TBA and it's not permanent. The only one that caused a huge fuss over it was you - demanding unobtainable proof to justify moving 3 letters over a little bit. Again, this is a clear
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watchword here; any change to the article should be supported by evidence, even if the change is removing content. Unfortunately, the source you originally supplied, the NBC motorsportstalk feed, is not particularly reliable; they post a lot like
Autosport's Grapevine column for soft news and rumours.
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No, that's ridiculous. If something is not happening, regardless of whether it is sourced or not, it can be simply removed from the article. Including wrong or potentially unreliable information just because it is reliable sourced is contrary to
Knowledge (XXG) policies. Furthermore, if you can point
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to. "Will" says it's 100% going to happen. Your stance on it being grammatically identical is simply incorrect. Given the two instances of precendence, both involving Rossi and both involving a version of the Manor
Marussia team, how can you reasonably argue it will 100% happen? If it's going to tear
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I am just going by what the criteria says. It seems like I've gotten it right for 99% of the changes I've made (I went back to 2008). It said this was agreed by the community. To me, that says there is a concensus and that I don't need to form one to see that articles are graded that way. I'm open to
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The discussion was all but done before you came back. If you consult the edit history, you'll see that it had remained unchanged for a couple weeks. The page is watched, and the discussion page is active. Therefore, accepted is rightly assumed. You, meanwhile, have constantly reverted to revisions of
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I introduced an alternative option other than the footnotes template, one that does not inhibit your mobile view experience. Therefore, those reasons you used to invalidate my constructive edit is null and void, and your secondary excuse, no matter how much you pout, just comes off as you didn't like
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Hi, you removed my edit with the comment "obvious biased content, also misplaced in race report. Place UNBIASED post-race content in its appropriate section". Please explain how my factual and fully referenced edit was biased and also please show which is the appropriate section for post race content
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No not to me. Because I acknowledge that those articles exist for more than just the period of one season. So this eight-month shift between changing points for the layout won't make that much difference for an article that's going to exist for decades. Eight months is nothing in a lifetime. Besides,
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work like this. We would use a default layout (alphabetical) to start with and then we would change it to our preferred number-order style once that information became available (i.e. the entry list was published). So basically with this new way we would simply shift the point were we change to final
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Thanks. While it wasn't sourced in the article, it did come out the day before that
Ecclestone affirmed that Hockenheimring was going to host. Had that been it, I feel that in itself would have been enough to put in it the table. However, today track officials pretty much said they aren't as eager to
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I would invite you to read COMMONNAME, which only applies to article titles. For example, we refer to the Sao Paulo circuit as "Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace", NOT "Interlagos", even though
Interlagos is the common name. So why should we refer to Suzuka by uts common name, and not the name actual name?
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Please do not asign importance levels for F1 circuits based on whether they are currently in use or not. That is not how wikipedia works. A current circuit with only one or two years history is not more important than a circuit with over 50 years of history and some of F1s most famous moments. Senna
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English word; "Hispanic" is derived from it, and it refers to the Iberian Peninsula. But I think the FIA were worried about the long-term prospects of the team, given the disaster that was Campos Meta. By calling it "Hispania", it would have been turned into an asset of the owners, who might have
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I've virtually given up on making sense of this article - the contents are inconsistent and the definition conflicts with the title. I'm not arguing with your edit as such, but the logic isn't that self-evident. While the WDC began in 1950, Formula One was defined in 1946, and
Formula One races were
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That this option (same year's final standing for the final table arrangement) wasn't brought up is a little mind-boggling. It seems like a logical solution. But again, like I said, I don't want to open a can of worms that seems to have been opened, flung around, and allowed to make a mess of things.
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Yes, I know that was the case pre 2014. I have admitted that using previous season WCC order for a current season is not a good thing. Yet that doesn't mean we can't consider rearranging a season's table to that same season's WCC order at the end of the season (e.g. using 2014 WCC order for the 2014
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All or nothing applied to the use of Red Bull/Toro Rosso vs RBR/STR, and it applies here too. Noting one tender doesn't mean we have to note all tenders. Seeing as wider tyres are still a very real possibility (which is noted in the article), some background information on the tyre tender is hardly
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Why must the two of you always be so emotional in discussing with each other. And that over just one word. For the record, I agree that "will" was no the best choice of the words. Maybe "is expected to" would have been the most neutral choice. And following up on discussions a while ago, I think we
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Also, I'm a little on the fence having the article state that the
Mercedes power unit as being the benchmark for the 2015 season, despite it being said so in the source. Finally, the sentence with the drivers effectively being moved to the back of the grid in Belgium, I don't believe effectively is
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I don't see anything overly, or rather, unecessarily technical. The article's subject is about a very highly-technical piece of automotive machinery, so there's bound to be some sections that could be a little much to some people, much like an article covering a medical topic or the history of some
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I'm starting to think that they don't have a fixed free practice/test number for the entire reason, but that they are rather assigned one for the day every time such a session takes place. For instance, during the recent
Barcelona tests Verstappen wasn't even present, so his number 33 was available
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We could actually incorporate the season's constructors' standings into the table in two ways: Either by putting that as the default layout of the table, like you did, or by leaving the default order as alphabetical as current and adding the option to sort by constructors' standings (using the team
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So basically you add {{ref|â |â }} to entry for which you're adding a footnote, and you enter a new subsection underneath the table in which you put a bullet point (*{{note|â |â }}Â â) for each note you require. In race reports we generally use numbers to distinguish direct notes, and in season articles
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edit summary that you're making it to allow you to work your mobile device. Having said that, you, Prisonermonkeys, are not the person that should be lecturing about conducting disputes. I have no problem to admit that I haven't always been showing perfect behavior, but you on your side have pushed
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I must not have been around for that because I don't remember any argument over table mark-ups. I'm not expecting everyone to "take my word for it," however, everyone except you seems to be on board with giving it a try to see if it works. It's not long term - TBAs are typically either announced or
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Nor is proof of what I ask unobtainable. You have made the assertion, in its simplest form, that formatting changes can bring about an end to disruptive editing. Do you mean to tell me that in the millions of pages on Knowledge (XXG), the only time this has ever happened is on the 2015 season page?
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Please allow me to use this space to vent my displeasure and frustration over the Grand Prix of America. Aside that I live an hour from the location, the proposed track is incredible with a majestic backdrop of NYC throughout the entire area, and would be a great street course to compliment Monaco,
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Seeing as it's my sandbox you're referring to and not the articles, I don't see why this even needs to be addressed. But, seeing as Palmer himself has confirmed it, I'll put it back. Somewhere along the lines, the sort arrow got next to every driver number and I'm trying to figure out why/how that
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A long-standing consensusâit's been around longer than meâsays that changes are notable and continuity between seasons does not need to be addressed. Right now, that section amounts to "there was a tender process, but they decided to keep doing what they have been doing for six years", and implies
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Hi Twirlypen. I have noticed that you have submitted your draft for the 2017 season article. May I kindly request you to retract that submission. The reason why I ask this is because it's way to soon to have this around. We don't need an article for season that's going to happen in two years time.
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That is peculiar, indeed. As we figured out for the 2014 season, McLaren's practice/test numbers were 32 and 33. Perhaps these do NOT get reassigned each season as we had assumed given that Verstappen selected 33, yet McLaren obviously still used it. On the other hand, if THAT is the case, then it
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It wouldn't really be a can of worms since it technically would be proposing something new. I really can't see the problem with trying. You've got nothing to lose. The reason why we didn't think of it last year was because we were confronted with a new system in the sport and we were looking for a
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to desperation with your conduct during some disputes. Your behavior in some discussions isn't the prime example of how users should behave themselves. And neither is some of your editorial behavior. Hence why you have been blocked three times recently and currently are on a last warning before an
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1946 rather than 1949, but that's neither here nor there. A subjects ancestry is still relevant to the topic. The Grand Prix de l'ACF (and its organiser Automobile Club de France) still has a unique place in the history of F1, for its influence, its political power and its nomadic nature, utterly
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I think 0/00 would best be one of those things where we cross that bridge if we get to it. As in, leave it out of the table until someone is successful in choosing it - then we can just add it in. By that notion, if 0/00 isn't strictly prohibited, then what would stop a driver from hypothetically
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I may just do so after some reconsideration. Once any major potential rule changes get announced/confirmed though, it should be made. Also, for what it's worth, when I went to the redlink a few days ago, I was allowed to attempt to create the article, although it's very possible that I just had a
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said the reason he stopped in a speculative manner (seemingly to collect his thoughts ). Your edit said that he stopped in a display of frustration. Nowhere did it definitively say why he stopped. If that's not a re-interpretation by your own words, I don't know what is. Yes, factually he hit the
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Maybe it was a quick reaction, but reverting my edit on the basis that he "has to check first" before it's removed/hidden kind of literally violates OWN and AGF at the same time. Maybe it was just a poor choice of words and bad timing. I just don't like being accused of being a disruptive editor,
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In all honesty, Twirlypen, I think that claim regarding the MP4-30 article edit was a bit quick. On the other hand, Prisonermonkeys, as a point of advice, you can't assume that everyone is aware of you being limited through editing from a mobile device, so it might help yourself if you add to the
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That may be so, and I also heard the rumour about the lack of a helipad. I have also read that the altitude required for the helicopter to clear the weather may have increased the pressure on Bianchi's brain injury, making it too risky to fly him. In any case, the first FIA statement that said it
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Consensus_flowchart.svg, etc, etc... just another case of you putting things your way and then demanding justification from everyone else that agreed it was fine the way it was. Rationally, people discuss significant changes, such as removal of entire sections, before implementing their edits of
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and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the
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The FIA always recognised Hispania as "HRT" because they didn't consider "Hispania" to be a word (weird, I know). We just had a lengthy discussion on the way we have to go by what the entry lists say, and while I still disagree with that, we should at least be aiming for consistency. At the very
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And again, I made no comment about "collecting his thoughts". Factually, he stopped. Factually he hit the marker board. Knowledge (XXG) is not about re-interpreting third party reports to our own devices, it's about collating the best of those reports. Which is what people like me try to do. You
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Now, I know you currently share the same opinion as Tvx1 on the 2015 talk page, but please do not look to him as an example of how to conduct a debate. Accusations of OWN are, unfortunately, one of his favourite tactics. If you look at some of the debates he has been involved inâparticularly the
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I appriciate you being patient with me. I think I am being misunderstood on the JEV point though... the second source I provided though, the FoxSports one, comes from the boss's mouth himself that JEV is being reconsidered now that Kvyat will move on to RBR. Doesn't this nullify that JEV is 100%
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I'm not sure how long you've been an editor, but I think you need to acquaint yourself with one of the more illogical unwritten rules of Knowledge (XXG)âand that is the idea that on Knowledge (XXG), what is true is what we can prove. And when we're talking about something as fluid as the driver
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You're talking about two incidents of precedence amid thousands of driver changes, and yet you're presenting them as representative of the entire process. It's the Gambler's fallacyâbecause of a correlation between events with a similar variable, you assume that any future events with that same
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With all due respect in regards to the French GP, this is WP F1, not WP Motorsports. 1906 to 1949 have no bearing on WP F1. And as far as criteria interpretation, nowhere does it say personal opinion or discretion should play a factor. Maybe the issue should be raised, since there appears to be
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season would start to appear during the summer. Needless to say that didn't happen at all and we spent the first five months the article was live reverting unsourced additions and vandalism. Only towards the end of november did 2016 information start to appear in the sources and the summer only
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I can't really agree, it's not very obviously an error. It's more a kind of definition, and the definition will be made by the FIA, so we've to accept these numbering. When we've new information from the FIA or Tilke, I'll change, and I haven't seen the change, please give me a small hint, I'll
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Just so you know, previous Formula One season articles have had the teams sorted by number order, not constructors order. Why? because constructors order is a characteristic of the previous season, not the current one. In 2014 another editor edit-warred constructors order in and following that,
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should avoid the word debut as it is to vague. Now, Prisonermonkeys, I think you are being overconcerned again. Your just overdramatizing the pootential implications of this change of words. We don't to have a well-founded philosophy for every change of words. Anyway the issue is moot now that
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My edit did not state that it cost him the win, it stated that he stopped on the cool down lap and hit the third placed board. I made no comment about any pit stops or strategy. Everything that I submitted was factual and supported by the provided reference. Please explain your removal of this
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I understand your logic in removing the line about JEV in the 2015 article. The problem is that we have a source that clearly says he won't drive. Just because Kvyat has since moved on, that doesn't automatically mean that JEV is back in contention to keep his seat. Conservatism should be your
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No, because it has no effectâButton and Alonso go to the back of the grid with no further consequence. And it was 105 in total; 50 for Button and 55 for Alonso. Plus, the article already covers it; it mentions the decision to take the penalties now to free up engines for Monza and Singapore.
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As for criticism of the French Grand Prix? The Grand Prix de l'ACF was the original Grand Prix. An enormously important part of the origin and early history of Grand Prix racing and Formula One. It is top importance. Suggesting otherwise is a nonsense, regardless of whether a criteria written
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Nowhere in your reference did it say he "deliberately shunted the third place marker" nor do podium cars even park in Parc FermĂŠ in Monaco. They were on the start/finish line. As for stopping midway during the cool-down lap, the reference even says "seemingly to collect his thoughts." That is
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You're the last person to lecture me or anyone on AGF and OWN. Also, you're announcing that you're the only one that speaks up because we "assume what everyone is thinking" and that they don't post because "everyone is tired of Tvx1 & Twirlypen" (which, I'd like to see these if YOU'RE not
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image to create th current circuit map. We can improve it, the problem in my opinion is that, at the moment, I found only that circuit map form a reliable source (it's from the official F1 website). If you found athor images from other reliable sources, I will improve my image. Best regards,
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As for the engine penalties at Spa, others could in theory move behind them, but the system of prioritising penalties informally changed last year. They used to be awarded in the order they were issued, but the stewards now wait until after qualifying to issue them to stop teams taking a new
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Please stop assuming that I have some ulterior motive. You can either refute the argument, or you can leave it alone. Reading your edit summaries, it's pretty clear that you are making decisions based on what other editors are doing, and not based on what is in the interests of the article.
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The solution that accommodates mobile users does not adversely affect non-mobile users. If anything, it benefits them because it makes the situationâwhich is very unusualâquite clear, resolves the contradiction between the driver table and results matrices and more accurately represents the
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Did Olivier Turvey use #33 before Max ever got into a car? I mean, yes, Max selected it before preseason testing ever began, but who actually drove with it first? This is something that just came to me out of the blue and probably answers at least that part of how he was able to use it.
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That one is much more accurate. Unfortunately, there are some aspects of formula1.com that are unreliable, including circuit maps. They use an old map layout, but inexplicably (though we know why) give Ricciardo the lap record time with a slower time than 2013. Thanks for your efforts!
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unlike any other Grand Prix, except possibly Australia if you include its pre-F1 life. Even without the Club ACF and the French Grand Prix, F1 is still based in France after all. Even though they've moved some functions to Geneva and Vernier, the powerbase is still centred on Paris. --
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I'm afraid by the time we reach the 2018 season article, everyone will have forgotten the discussions held at the moment. But well... Maybe I'll add just a small paragraph about the press conference on Wednesday to the article when I update it to GA status after the Grand Prix.
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You are missing something. The order is sorted by race number, NOT constructors standings. The two are not the same. Sometimes they have seemed the same, but not always. The fact that the edit-warring editor could not or would not understand the difference led to the edit war.
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It's the matter at which these issues are settled. I, of course, wasn't expecting a swift resolution, but I also wasn't expecting Lord Judgement to try and push his version and force the onus on the rest of us to prove everything. I probably should have expected this though.
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your preference, undoing constructive edits on the matter despite that impose no viewability or compatability restrictions on your device. And don't think you're slick by stopping short of 3RR in 24 hours. Please be aware that you're still edit-warring, even if I am too.
409:, I totally swore that I saw it in the reference used in the 2014 ADGP article calling the Abi Double GP. I left you a message. I am sure you are going through my contributions and reverting everything, rightfully so. I was pretty thorough for consistancy. My apologies.
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I don't think that article should over-emphasise Alonso's accident, since nothing came of it. Any more detail will make it read like an open-ended, unsolved mystery and take focus away from the car. So unless a more definitive cause comes forward, I think it's fine as
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If you see the words "see talk page" it usually means that you need to visit the talk page. If you do and you don't see anything there, it's because something is in the process of being added. Maybe you should stop being so trigger-happy in reverting things on sight.
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The accusation that someone has violated OWN is taken pretty seriously. It's a large failure of AGF. Don't make the mistake that Tvx1 has and start throwing accusations of OWN around if someone doesn't immediately accept your position, which I think you have done at
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Or you could simply nominate those articles for AFD. I never said their existance is ok. Do you really think I have to be aware of every single article that's somehow related to F1 before being allowed to nominate one for deletion? FYI, I hold not grudges at all.
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It's well documented that I edit from a mobile phone. I can't follow links in text windows. I had to unhide the text to bring the reference up so that I could follow the link. Most people accept that it takes me three or four edits to achieve what they can do in
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This whole "What's true is what we can prove" code is looking more like "we have seniority." I gave a source, PROVED that Vergne isn't 100% eliminated from the seat. Yet it honestly feels like significant edits cannot be made unless it's by a select group of F1
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According to your logic, we should list everything that is happeningâdrivers that are staying with their teams, teams that are staying with their engine suppliers, races that are staying at their circuits and so onâbecause Pirelli are keeping their contract.
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the existing article (thereby preserving the edit history), rather that copying the contents to a new title and then redirecting the existing article to the new one (this is called a "cut-and-paste move"). Feel free to ask if you have any questions. Regards.
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Just give other people the time to weigh in their opinion. Don't make the mistake of wanting to settle an issue within the time space of a few hours. Don't forget that half the world is asleep (and I myself should have been) at almost any point of the day.
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Please read your sources a little more carefully. The comments from Lopez amount to "if the Renault deal falls through, then we can use Mercedes engines". It is completely conditional, rather than certain; Lotus (or whoever they will be in 2016) will use
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Look at the time difference between the two edits. What do you think I was doing in the time between them? My "homework". You just assumed that I hadn't looked it upâand had any other editor made those edits, you would have accepted them on face value.
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I see it as more of a development to the car, the scope of the article, rather than the crash itself. There are numerous sources stating that McLaren added "an extra sensor", rather than specific hardware to prevent a lock, so perhaps it's fine as-is.
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Also, you're placing too much emphasis on the extremely minor statistic of Rossi having the seat, then losing it; it's a logical fallacy, and using it establishes a precedent for using the argument in future, which has all sorts of dire implications.
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Tooltips are not visible on mobile devices. Why do you think we stopped using them? And given that the established consensus is to work to suit all readers equally and there are viable alternatives to Tooltips, I really don't see what the problem is.
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as whole and to WP:France than to just WP:F1 (Twirlypen, note that it's WP:F1, not WP:F1 World Championship. F1 started before 1950. The World Championship started in 1950). Therefore I have added the WP:Motor tag on the French Grand Prix talk page.
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If you think I suggested you alterred Senna's article importance (it did not even happen!) then you are suffering from your own sense of entitlement. That you think I could even suggest such an accusation suggests you have a distorted view of my
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Yeah, that's basically the short version of the reply I made to your question on my talk page. As I said I wouldn't be opposed to rearranging to the current season's constructor order once it's finished like you actually did to the 2014 article.
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I didn't addressed it out of sheer curiosity because you denied it being confirmed both in your sandbox and on the 2016 Formula One season talk page. Those unwanted arrows seem to be a site-wide problem and there is already some discussion
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Go ahead and put it back then. He's already got the 13 next to his name in the table anyway. He's going to race 13-14, and 16-18, while Merhi will race Russia and Abu Dhabi. So since that's already set in stone, we can add those too.
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My I kindly request you to remove that last comment from the Manor discussion. It's better to discuss those things on yout talk pages. Discussing the contributor does not help the discussion on the project's page forward.
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the Grand Prix, like being discussed during the press conferences, it could be included to give a framework about what was happening in F1 at the time of the race. But if that is not consensus, I'll leave it out.
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tried to on-sell it, damaging the sport. It's political, a lot like the decision to leave Manor on the Melbourne entry list despite their inability to compete and failure to meet the actual conditions of entry.
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speculation. The bias claim may have gotten mixed up in the other revisions, but regardless unless Hamilton himself says why he stopped or that he intentionally drove into his marker, we can't assume anything.
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still haven't recanted your accusation of "bias", a besmirchment on my editing on this site, nor have have you provided any kind of explanation of where the "appropriate section" for "post-race content" is.
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Thanks. I backtracked and guessed on the practice and testing numbers. I haven't been as active lately in the past month or so and have let it go by the wayside. But again, thanks for the updated info.
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I don't think any harm would come of asking. It's silly that we would bring a third opinion on such a trivial issue. I don't know if you've been following the talk page - it might be down to two users.
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Now, if you had watched the qualifying session, you would have seen that the teams are recognised as "Red Bull Racing-Renault" and "STR-Renault". Either refute this, or leave it alone.
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discuss new criteria if the ones there are outdated, just not here on my talk page and not while being accused of being a rogue editor, changing grades based off of nothing but a whim.
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If the software doesn't accept my replacement signature, let me know, and I may give you another replacement signature to use. Otherwise, you may have to change it to something else.
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Don't presume to know what I'm thinking. I have given you a perfectly valid reason for removing those edits. You plainly do not want to accept them, and you have broken 3RR to do it.
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excessively showed his frustration during the cool-down lap. Furthermore the information has little encyclopedic value. Those events have no bearing on the outcome of the race.
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Singapore, and Australia. Austin is a great track, no doubt, but this place would truly sell Formula One to America. The powers that be, please make it happen in 2016!!!!
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So what did I misunderstand about your: "Changing the order used all season to a different order after the season is complete is mind-boggling to me." comment?
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If I even continue with this project, I'm just going to remove all team's supposed "assigned practice numbers" as there is no method or madness to it anymore.
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Thank you for going through the 2015 Formula One races and fixing all the minor and less minor issues they still have. It is very much appreciated!
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