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And since I am indeed not a topographic researcher (but must admit some curiosity), I would ask you to explain (in relatively simple terminology) how a mountain in the southern Andes range can be a parent of a mountain in the
Alaskan range, thousands of kilometers away. While I understand that they
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it says "Primary factor 3700 m" under the elevation. Is this a prominence? If so I would much rather use a value that is directly sourced rather than one we calculated on a talk page. The combined error margin of the two measurements probably exceeds 7 m anyway. As I am about to change the standing
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First, on the subject of edit warring, you made the original change, it was reverted by another editor, then you restored the change instead of discussing the issue on the article's talk page. Regardless of who has the expertise, you should not edit war except in the case of obvious vandalism. See
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as well, but still is not reliable for me to mention on wiki, as
Iranian authorities have not published it officially yet!! Also when it comes to compare elevation of Damavand with other summits in for example Eastern Europe to have extra judgments, all measurements must be accomplished by same
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Scafell Pike's parent peak is Snowden. I appreciate that there might be some topographical standard for this sort of thing - but the term defies common sense and will certainly be felt as misleading/incorrect by many.
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Describing him as a mathematician and astrophysicist is also misleading. He is at best, a student whose had a puff biography written of him by his mother. Please do not add misleading information. And please do not lecture me on this sortof thing.
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Yes these should be moved to article talk page. Primary factor is another name for prominence. I stand by the 441m col and would rather it was not changed, at least until I have asked about the source of 3700 on the
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I have in mind the phrase "Using the encirclement definition, the parent of almost any small hill in a low-lying coastal area would be Ben Nevis, an unhelpful and confusing outcome." which can be found in
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