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If you continue down your current course then I'm afraid that tempers will flare, good will will be strained, and you will in all likelihood be blocked as a single-purpose account. That may seem like a threat - it's not meant to, I don't really care about the dispute you're involved in and I don't
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Making an edit that improves an article is constructive. No, a waste of time because we have already discussed it at afd, and protecting content that the community has chosen to delete most certainly is not constructive, especially in a new editor with a non-existent track record. Please engage in
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Waste of time. There is much to do. Please engage in constructive editing for a few months before getting involved in such controversial editing, as new editors who only engage in controversial editing often have their privileges withdrawn, and I wouldn't want to see that happen to you. So far you
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You are, quite simply, an edit-warring single purpose account. Those are indeed all treated like this and I have seen none that have not been blocked indefinitely for their behavior in the long run. I suggest you stop this counter-productive attempt at bypassing consensus and pursue some more
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