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misbegotten share you currently hold, I might be persuaded to offer you an executive producer credit on the "malamanteau" feature film currently in pre-production. I received word this morning that Ridley Scott has committed to the project. That, however, is the limit of my generosity, and I would advise you not to test me further.
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I'll happily grant you possession of the word and the accompanying Talk page clusterfuck. As I said in a couple places, there was one hit for the word when I did the comic (yours), which I found after posting and which didn't define it the same way. But I'd be happy to give you credit for coming up
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If you don't believe that I am the true creator of "malamanteau," kindly provide a citation for "malamanteau" that predates July 17, 2007. If you cannot do so, then it is clear that "malamanteau" is my intellectual property. Randall's dishonest claims about its origins are harming the prospects of my
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of the subject. Your interview comments, talk at MIT, and blog are not "independent" of the subject (you and your blog). However, the interviewer's comments in your interview generally can be used (assuming that the interviewer is independent of you, such as he's not your brother or someone who works
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I just found your comic (curse you, Boing Boing) and am really enjoying it. Thanks! (Even if it all is "patently made up". Heh. Nowadays nobody believes you work for NASA until you're arrested and found to be carrying pepper spray and a diaper.) Anyway, I should be emailing you to say I like the
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I would gladly accept your challenge Mr. Munroe, but you must realize that it is a foolhardy one, as your leopard style will surely be no match for my crane style. However, I am feeling charitable today -- if you'd like a legitimate piece of the burgeoning "malamanteau" industry rather than the
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Man, if I'd known my deleting and protecting the non-article would have generated so much fuss, I would have hacked the whitepages and called you to get your ass out of bed and watch the fun. :D Maybe next time give us a head's up when you're gonna poke fun at us. ;) - Writing on behalf of the
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Yes, this is sorta like
Stephanie Meyer destroying /b/ by featuring it in her books and thus filling it with her goth fans - except instead it's you destroying Knowledge by featuring it in a cartoon and thus filling it full of xk/b/tards. And we didn't even ask you to show us your tits.
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1) Ideas and words that people come up with are rarely original, there's always a chance someone has thought of it before them. 2) You did not pursue copyright of the word. 3) You are not losing anything because Munroe used it in his comic. 4) Any legal action would be ridiculous. 5)
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I feel like I've already fielded requests on this particular image elsewhere in the three years since this debate, so the issue has probably been resolved. In case I haven't: yesâI am willing to release comic #285 under CC-BY-SA, so
Knowledge can use it. Sorry for any trouble!
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We would appreciate it if you put a stop to this nonsense. I love your comic, Randall, but you're basically commanding an army of fans akin to 4chan. The article didn't exist when you made the comic, and now your fans are flooding in to try and get it created and re-created.
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How is it his fault? He didn't tell people to vandalize
Knowledge. He just wrote the comic. It's not his fault that a bunch of people are idiots. What is he supposed to do, never mention Knowledge on his site? That would deprive him of half his material.
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was influenced by seeing you list it as an interesting topic. The article's improved a long way and it'll be the main page
Featured Article tomorrow. Hope it gives you some nourishing brain-food. Thanks again for making me and my friends laugh so many times.
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comic instead of pestering you here, but I thought I'd come across as ever so much more impressive in my
Knowledge persona than as some random emailer. Yeah, didn't work, huh? (My favorite comic so far: mixing curse levels. I'm going to start trying it.) â
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upcoming "malamanteau" business ventures, including a planned TV series and a line of women's fragrances. If you have never invented a popular new word, you can't understand the craftsmanship and labor that it involves and should reserve comment.
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I think that the XZ Utils backdoor article could benefit from featuring your comic directly in the page. Could you kindly please consider licensing this particular individual comic with a
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law, which is rather different from copyright law, as it DOES have to be applied for. In short, your use of a single word is ineligible for copyright, sorry. But don't take my word for it: the
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that mostly answers this. It doesn't mean anything, it's just a string of letters to refer to a particular comic. Except when I use it as a username, in which case it refers to me.
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