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214:, and he then decided to go through a lot of the articles I've edited (including the one in question) and removed 90% of the article. After/during an edit war, I did some sourcing, but he kept reverting. Then he got blocked (slightly unrelated to this situation), and I reverted things back. Then I got blocked (again, related to this) for 24 hours, but someone else reverted the topic to its original state. I just noticed that it got shrank down again, losing about 90% of its sourced information, so I decided to go through this route instead of getting into an edit war. Frankly, I'm not sure if this was the right thing/method to do, but frankly I'd like a final say on the matter. 330:, which is not considered to be vandalism. The case could be made that he is removing copyright violations, as Tibertium appears to contain passages of content - such as tables and scuh - lifted from the presumed C&C manual. Too much copying falls under copyvio and not fair use. In that case, reverting that removal 334:
be considered to be vandalism. Fancruft is only an essay, true, but while AMIB refers to the removed content as fancruft, he consistently brings up the policies WP:ATT, WP:WAF, and WP:FICT - all of which are policies or
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Answer: Some sort of decision on the future of the article in question. I'd rather not get into another edit war with him about this, and he's going to revert anyone's changes to the article in question.
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The content is now deleted, but Scumbag once had a page titled "Scumpolicies," presumably about not following policy, that got him blocked for 24 hours.
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Hello, I'm a new AMA member considering taking your case. It sounds like your difficulties involve a number of other articles besides the
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I am not sure if I can speak here, as I am uninvolved; feel free to revert this if it is not protocol. AMIB has consistently brought up
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Answer: We've discussed it (fairly rudely on both sides), there's been an edit war, and neither side is willing to see the other's side.
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have you tried so far? If you can, please provide wikilinks so that the Advocate looking over this case can see what you have done.
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because the people maintaining those articles don't agree with him either. At the core of the problem, really, is the AMiB
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How would you describe the nature of this dispute? (policy violation, content dispute, personal attack, other)
250: 300: 261:, you can see he's the only one advocating the merge. He did not seem to understand when I could provide 257:, but AMiB decided to redirect all of those into the core article. If you'd take a look at the article's 411:
If there were one thing that you would like to see different in the Advocacy process, what would it be?
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is misleading. It is his good-faith effort to remove uncited, un-attributed content. He is being
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one. Could you identify a few other articles where you've experienced difficulties? Thanks, --
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On a scale of 1 to 5, how effective do you feel your Advocate was in solving the problem?
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If you were to deal with this dispute again, what would you do differently, if anything?
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On a scale of 1 to 5, how effective do you feel the Advocacy process is altogether?
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Answer: Content Dispute, possible personal attack (but I would say thats a stretch)
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When the case is finished, please take a minute to fill out the following survey:
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when it's the game's history. I realize it's a bit below the belt, but
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On a scale of 1 (worst) to 5 (best), how polite was your Advocate?
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not being a enforceable policy, as well as a history of using
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Did your Advocate handle your case in an appropriate manner?
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is a good example of my problem. Notice how it redirects to
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he's been blocked three times this month for violating 3RR
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199:Well, its kinda hard to explain, so I'll be brief. 8: 305:notability guidelines for fictional topics. 361:Did you find the Advocacy process useful? 85:Knowledge (XXG) pages this pertains to: 7: 62:Other Wikipedians this pertains to: 28: 474:AMA Requests for Assistance/Cases 301:real-world notability guidelines 206:] for the article in question, 181:What do you expect to get from 265:articles of a similar nature. 212:unpleasant discussion with him 202:It all started when I created 1: 237:Sure, that'd be fairly easy. 269:is another example. Despite 469:AMA Requests for Assistance 490: 347:07:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC) 232:01:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC) 39:Wikipedian filing request: 34:07:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC) 271:a consensus against him 267:Ravnica's plane article 251:United Earth Federation 283:, saying something is 169:Dispute Resolution 143:Have you read the 285:original research 243:Supreme Commander 481: 450:Advocate Status: 445: 314:in relation wot 167:What methods of 133: 115: 489: 488: 484: 483: 482: 480: 479: 478: 459: 458: 441: 436: 434:AMA Information 355: 303:instead of the 247:Aeon Illuminate 220: 197: 140: 106: 90: 35: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 487: 485: 477: 476: 471: 461: 460: 457: 456: 455:None assigned. 448: 435: 432: 430: 428: 427: 418: 417: 408: 407: 398: 397: 388: 387: 378: 377: 368: 367: 354: 351: 350: 349: 337: 336: 235: 234: 219: 216: 196: 193: 192: 191: 178: 177: 164: 163: 154: 153: 139: 136: 135: 134: 82: 81: 68:A Man In Black 59: 58: 32:Case Filed On: 30: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 486: 475: 472: 470: 467: 466: 464: 454: 453: 452: 451: 446: 444: 440: 433: 431: 425: 424: 423: 422: 415: 414: 413: 412: 405: 404: 403: 402: 395: 394: 393: 392: 385: 384: 383: 382: 375: 374: 373: 372: 365: 364: 363: 362: 358: 352: 348: 345: 342: 339: 338: 333: 329: 325: 321: 317: 313: 309: 308: 307: 306: 302: 298: 294: 293:hates 'cruft' 290: 286: 282: 279: 276: 272: 268: 264: 260: 256: 255:Cybran Nation 252: 248: 244: 240: 239:Cybran Nation 233: 230: 226: 222: 221: 217: 215: 213: 209: 205: 200: 194: 189: 188: 187: 186: 184: 175: 174: 173: 172: 170: 161: 160: 159: 158: 151: 150: 149: 148: 146: 137: 131: 127: 123: 119: 114: 110: 105: 101: 97: 93: 89: 88: 87: 86: 79: 76: 73: 69: 66: 65: 64: 63: 56: 53: 50: 46: 43: 42: 41: 40: 36: 33: 23: 19: 449: 447: 442: 439:Case Status: 438: 437: 429: 420: 419: 410: 409: 400: 399: 390: 389: 380: 379: 370: 369: 360: 359: 356: 331: 262: 236: 229:Shirahadasha 201: 198: 180: 179: 166: 165: 156: 155: 142: 141: 84: 83: 74: 61: 60: 51: 38: 37: 31: 29: 335:guidelines. 275:vandalising 218:Discussion: 152:Answer: Yes 463:Categories 344:Hbdragon88 295:, despite 278:every M:TG 204:this image 138:Questions: 353:Followup: 259:talk page 297:fancruft 225:Tiberium 208:Tiberium 195:Summary: 183:Advocacy 92:Tiberium 78:contribs 55:contribs 22:Requests 20:‎ | 426:Answer: 416:Answer: 406:Answer: 396:Answer: 386:Answer: 376:Answer: 366:Answer: 328:WP:BOLD 324:WP:VAND 320:WP:FICT 281:article 145:AMA FAQ 109:protect 104:history 45:Scumbag 312:WP:WAF 253:, and 113:delete 332:could 263:eight 130:views 122:watch 118:links 16:< 318:and 316:WP:N 126:logs 100:talk 96:edit 72:talk 49:talk 443:NEW 465:: 249:, 128:| 124:| 120:| 116:| 111:| 107:| 102:| 98:| 185:? 147:? 132:) 94:( 80:) 75:· 70:( 57:) 52:· 47:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Association of Members' Advocates
Requests
Scumbag
talk
contribs
A Man In Black
talk
contribs
Tiberium
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
AMA FAQ
Dispute Resolution
Advocacy
this image
Tiberium
unpleasant discussion with him
Tiberium
Shirahadasha
01:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Cybran Nation
Supreme Commander
Aeon Illuminate

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