339:. St. Norbert is a Division III program (the lowest level in the NCAA hierarchy), and such teams generally do not get a lot of coverage in mainstream, independent media sources. A search of google news archive indicates that the St. Norbert football program does get some coverage in Milwaukee (and, to a lesser extent, Chicago) newspapers. If someone could demonstrate that there is substantial coverage of the 2008 team, I'd reconsider my "delete" vote. Separately, the article in its current form is more in the nature of an almanac entry than an encyclopedia article. The article merely repeats the information already published on the on-line sports almanac, college football reference.com. The existing article on
408:. EJ, the first nomination "failed" because the nominator submitted multiple season article from multiple teams in a single AfD, and multiple AfD participants felt that the articles should be considered individually, not en masse. That sort of "no consensus" situation practically invites a resubmission of the articles individually; this is not a "bad faith" AfD given the circumstances. I urge you to reconsider your choice of words: the AfD nominator has done absolutely nothing wrong in resubmitting this article individually.
364:, single CFB seasons for minor programs do not get anything like an "automatic pass." And it's not supposed to be automatic for Division I FBS programs, either. We do make exceptions for non-notable seasons when they are combined with other seasons by decade, coaching tenure or some other logical and coherent grouping. If the article creator wants to have this article userfied so that he can work on expanding to a full decade of seasons (e.g. 2000-09), I would support that in keeping with established WP:CFB precedent.
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