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ethnic minority. Members, i.e. people, i.e. human beings. Homo Sapiens. Not houses. Why is this so hard to get? What happened in the Georgian enclaves of South Ossetia, is that the Georgian population knew that war would come, and they left their houses voluntarily. The others left when the Georgian army was routed. The extreme majority of Georgians left before the Russians and Ossetians even came, before they entered. In the end, gangs of Ossetian hooligans burned abandoned houses. You have to have, what is beyond the wildest imagination possible, to call hooligans burning abandoned houses, "ethnic cleansing".
1522:- "the act of expelling or the state of being expelled". Since most of the Georgians left before either Ossetians or Russians got there, "the act of expelling" doesn't really qualify, since in order to perform an act, the people actually have to be there, doing the expulsion. The state of being expelled requires that assumption to be challenged. That requires Georgians, trying to peacefully comeback to Ossetia. This has not been tried. It also requires all Georgians to be expelled. Yet there are still people of Georgian decent, living in South Ossetia. So no matter how many times you highlight 1207:
still comeback there and rebuild the house. US is giving Georgia over a billion dollars in aid, these houses cost at most $ 50,000 to build. Say six people per house, 18,000 total, (actual number much less) you're looking at 3,000 houses rebuilt, that's 150 million. If you tried to argue that burning down abandoned houses is ethnic cleansing in any western court, you would be laughed out of court. Please, either make an actual argument, or don't make an argument. I don't know what the purpose of the burning is. I do know that burning abandoned houses isn't ethnic cleansing.
1628:, even if the Georgians did flee from their houses during the fighting. (Ethnic Georgians fleeing to the Georgian side during a war is not tantamount to an ethnic cleansing.) I have not seen any scholarly, non-partisan source for claims of ethnic cleansing from what has been posted on this AFD so far. Granted, the history here is very fresh, but we don't write encyclopedias based on our take on the news and Knowledge (XXG) is not a news blog. The present thing is thus an unreliable POV fork – as also noted by commenters above. 1449:
1989 there were 74,913 Russians. By August 2003 only 23,420 Russians remained. Clearly, according to the logic of this article, Russians were ethnically cleansed from Abkhazia. Here's a fun fact Narking: when war hits, people flee. And they don't return. This is voluntary, there's no ethnic cleansing involved. If there's an earthquake in California, in a major region, lots of people are going to flee. This article's logic would then accuse said earthquake of Ethnic Cleansing.
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which is not systematic. The official policy set by Medvedev was to prevent civilian deaths, and killings/beatings would be directly counterproductive to that, and lootings/detentions would be indirectly counterproductive to that, as people might try to save their property or escape. I'm all for documenting these horrible events, but it wasn't done a systematic scale.
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the ethnicity and imputed political affiliations of the residents of these villages, with the express purpose of forcing those who remained to leave and ensuring that no former residents would return. From this, Human Rights Watch has concluded that South Ossetian forces attempted to ethnically cleanse these villages
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Before the war more Ossetians then Georgians fled the region of combat. In addition, between 1989 and 2003, over 50,000 Russians left Abkhazia. Are you going to say that Russians were ethnically cleansed? Alex Bakharev's idea would be wonderful, if those pesky things called actual facts didn't get in
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for example, where Gamsakhurdia referred to Ossetians as "trash that has to be swept out through a tunnel" -- it is a doctrine and policy that is basically a recipe for genocide and ethnic cleansing, and it is little wonder that Saakashvili admires Gamsakhurdia (and Stalin too) given the genocide and
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in 1920, 1991-1992 and 2008 --- that's 3 articles that can be built --- well 4 actually --- one article could be an all encompassing article which goes into detail the long, long history of Georgians acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Ossetian people, with main articles for each of the
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After Georgian forces withdrew from South Ossetia on August 10, South Ossetian forces over a period of weeks deliberately and systematically destroyed ethnic Georgian villages. . .looted, beat, threatened, and unlawfully detained numerous ethnic Georgian civilians, and killed several, on the basis of
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I'm sorry, but I believe that quote is out of context. There was systematic destruction of property, but the lootings, beatings, unlawful detentions, and killings were not systematic. They were done by hooligans, or those seeking revenge. I find that unacceptable, but we cannot call systematic, that
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Source 5: “The Russians are starting to control the situation,” said Shura Terashvili, 68, one of the few people left in the village of Brotsleti, south of Irganeti. “Yesterday a Russian armoured vehicle stopped and asked if everything was okay. There have been some food shipments from Tbilisi too,”
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it won't make be actual expulsion taking place. What happened here was that people knew that a war was coming, (on both sides) and ran from war. Then abandoned houses were burned. Using this logic, Americans were "ethnically cleansing" Iraqis from Iraq. It's just so pathetic to watch you people try
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I trust you read the definition. So here it is again: "Ethnic cleansing is a euphemism referring to the persecution through imprisonment, expulsion, or killing of members of an ethnic minority by a local majority to achieve ethnic homogeneity in majority-controlled territory." It says members of an
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What facts will you be using? Here, I'll provide some: In 1989, the population of South Ossetia had 65,000 Ossetians and 28,700 Georgians. Before August 8th, the population of South Ossetia had 45,000 Ossetians and 17,500 Georgians. Looks to me like people just left due to war. As a comparison, in
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I don't care if you are an administrator or not, next time you delete my quotes on the talkpage, action will be taken - I'm glad you understand that Mr. Bakharev. Also, burning abandoned houses is not ethnic cleansing. If people wanted to return, here's the thing: they still own the land, they can
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The fact there were some human rights abuses directed at civilians on the losing side of a recent war, while unfortunate, is also pretty much a given. It would have to be pretty serious & widespread to justify creating a separate article, apart from the one about the 2008 war itself. However
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If the other side won't argue, I'm voting twice. So far all of their arguments have been pretty much thrown out of the window. 69 civilians killed, out of 17,500, is "ethnic cleansing". Looks like the blacks "ethnically cleansed" the whites in the Rodney King riot. Yopie - what would you like to
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Yes war does produce refugees, just seems to be a bit weird that all the ethnic Georgian refugees were kicked out of South Ossetia. This is what makes it ethnic cleansing. Also I was unaware that Hurricane Katrina was a war or that Hurricane Katrina was a dominant ethnic group which forced mass
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Source 4: “The organization’s researchers in South Ossetia on August 12, 2008, saw ethnic Georgian villages still burning from fires set by South Ossetian militias, witnessed looting by the militias, and learned firsthand of the plight of ethnic Ossetian villagers who had fled Georgian soldiers
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What else could they have done? Uhhh geez, maybe warn their neighborhoods? Blockade the Georgian Army from entering. Tell the UN everything that's going on, that's about to happen. Instead they saw a conflict, and they chose to flee. They didn't rise up against an invading army. Didn't protest
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on renaming proposal: We should answer one question: did ethnic Georgians decided to leave themselves, or were they forcefully thrown out of the country by Ossetian militias. If Georgians decided to leave themselves with the retreating Georgian forces, that would clearly not amount to ethnic
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Attempted murder isn't murder. Not the same thing. HRW placed in black and white, for people like you. Furthermore the Georgian population of South Ossetia is 17,500. 22,000 villagers lost property. So 4,500 non-Georgian villagers, lost property, according to British sources and HRW. Ethnic
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As of today, all Georgian villages in South Ossetia has been destroyed. They are empty, almost no one lives there. People have been forcefully evicted, with a stated purpose to get rid of them (see citation above). They have been evicted or killed based on their ethnicity. This is classic
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to grasp onto something, anything, that the Russian Army did wrong, even if the event happened before the Russian Army actually entered the area. Yes, Ossetian hooligans cost Georgians $ 150 million, in damages. But causing $ 150 million in damage doesn't qualify as genocide.
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You are comparing 150 million in property damage and 69 deaths to the Holocaust?! Oh I cannot wait to see the Jewish response to this. And in Serbrenica, 8,000 people died. Not 80. You're off by only about 10,000 percent. But your arguments draw a great emotional response.
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in a number of instances Georgian forces carried out indiscriminate and disproportionate artillery attacks on South Ossetia, and in some cases during their ground assault carried out attacks that had an excessive impact on civilians with respect to the anticipated military
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It was a bad thing but not a genocide. Info is good and genocide should be mentioned if directly quoted but common sense says it was not a genocide. It could also be mereged into another article if it cannot fill enough space to make editors happy or is a blatant POV
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Source 6: “After Georgian soldiers stormed South Ossetia and killed Vitaly Guzitayev’s friend, he hid in the woods. Once the Georgians left, he set fire to the elegant brick homes of ethnic Georgians who lived nearby.” – I’ve yet to wait Putin get blamed for this.
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Source 2: "But a dozen interviews with those who fled the fighting, and a trip through seven Georgian villages just south of the fighting, indicated the killing this month was not that systematic, nor on that scale — based on what is known so far."
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Source 3: “Detailed analysis of the damage depicted in five ethnic Georgian villages shows the destruction of these villages around the South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali, was caused by intentional burning and not armed combat.” – Houses not people
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against Grads being used against civilians. Rather, they abandoned their homes and fled. Those homes were abandoned. In came the Ossetian hooligan gangs, and burned down abandoned homes. That's not even a felony, much less ethnic cleansing.
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None. I would guess he thinks listing a bunch of irrelevant articles will strengthen his vote. Much like how the article itself cites irrelevant sources in an attempt to bring credibility to its factual inaccuracies and original research.
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Burning abandoned houses to prevent people of particular ethnicity from returning is indeed ethnic cleansing. If you have sources telling that the purpose of burning was something else you are welcome to introduce it to the article
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However ethnic cleansing has occurred before the war. Alex Bakharev has made a good suggestion with regard to renaming and expanding the scope to discuss ethnic cleansing from 1992 to the present day. --
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In order to commit Genocide/Ethnic Cleansing, you have to go after people, not houses. Burning an abandoned house isn't even a felony the in US. And you have one execution. One. That's not a genocide.
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Abandoned homes burned down is now ethnic cleansing? Wow, this is just sad. There would have been ethnic cleansing had the Russians not intervened. They intervened, so no ethnic cleansing took place.
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less than 1% of civilians reported killed/missing is not a genocide. The author has no idea what an actual genocide is. It's rather insulting to those whose families lived through an actual genocide.
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Are there any other non-Russian or non-Georgian or non-Ossetian users, who could judge this article? Because I think people from Russia, Georgia, Ossetia or Abhazia would be too biased on this issue.
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measure, they are started on government level, and are supported by state forces on state, level, i.e. state versus ethnos, not ethnos vs. ethnos. Otherwise that would be an inter-ethnic conflict.
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That's a nice list of selectively picked sources, but this doesn't address the main problem with the article, namely, that it's a POV-fork and there is no reason why people couldn't edit/expand
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of Georgians in South Ossetia. There was ethnic cleansing, but no more than the ethnic cleansing perpetrated by the tie eater's forces in Tskhinval. As Offliner mentions above
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regrettable, a handful of individual circumstances where angry Ossetians behaved like scum towards their Georgian neighbours does not constitute an instance of "genocide."
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Yes, the renamed article still stays mostly POVed, of course. I beleive it's because it was only made to advance pro-Georgian POV in WP - from the very beginning.
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If you have any other perspective on this article, please, expand it and place facts that are more important in you oppinion. I think it would make more sence.
1339:. Everyone agrees the old name is really bad. Irrespective of the result of the deletion debate, the article should not stay at the old name, so I moved it. -- 611:"Oh look that guy said something about genocide or something..." There must be a genocide going on there, if not a genocide then surely an ethnic cleansing... 1622:
would be okay as well, but with 1% of the people killed (69 civilians in S. Ossetia) there is no substantial source for ethnic cleansing – to say nothing of
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So instead of actually joining the discussion, you launched an Ad Hominem against the other side. Now that's what I call desperately grasping for straws.
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and that both of these articles appear to be much more balanced in their treatment of of the subject, my earlier recommendation—delete in accordance with
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Source 7: Anyone who thinks Brezhnev was better then any Russian ruler is on crack. Maybe he was better then Yeltsin the Alcoholic, but other then that…
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War produces refugees. And 2 + 2 = 4. So where's ethnic cleansing? According to your logic, Hurrican Katrina has ethnically cleansed Americans here:
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expulsion on the population of New Orleans? I must be wrong. I suggest you take a look at a dictionary definition of the term "ethnic cleansing".
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As said earlier I'm not taking part of your blogging. And yes, it's voluntary to flee if people shoot and bomb at you. Either you flee or die.
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Despite that someone may argue that it is a legitimate subarticle of the SO War, it is not. It is a POV fork of some of the content failing
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You're an extremely experienced Knowledge (XXG) editor. Should I really point to you that it's a matter of policies, not sympathies? —
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that would additionally discuss alleged forceful expulsion of Ossetians from the Georgian-controlled territories of SO in 1992-2008.
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genocide in the title is POV but there is no doubt that there were ethnic cleansings. We might expand the subject by titles like
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rename the article to? Did you even bother reading it? Cause if you did, you would have noticed that it's already been renamed.
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is not too big, so I don't see any valid reason for creating this fork, instead of expanding that article. Should we fork
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He is talking about South Ossetians being ethnically cleansed. Not Georgians. Are you sure you have the right article?
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Here are some recent reference I have added to the article which say ethnic cleansing did take place in South Ossetia
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Is the "keep" side actually going to debate, or are they just going to vote? FYI: Knowledge (XXG) is not a Democracy.
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driven of the Republic of South Ossetia, than it amounts to ethnic cleansing. One more thing: ethnic cleansings are a
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of Georgian people was conducted in South Ossetia and other teritories occupied by Russian and South Ossetian force."
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is a most viable article, which if this article is kept, is looking more and more viable, particularly when looks at
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So umm, yeah, I believe I was talking to you. And I've yet to see an non-laughable argument for ethnic cleansing.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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during the Georgian-Russian conflict over the breakaway region of South Ossetia” – again houses, not people.
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22,000 villagers, the majority of whom had fled South Ossetia before the conflict started, remain displaced."
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cleansing? Once again, if you want to talk about property damage, feel free to. But the HRW uses the word
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Please stop these ad hominem comments. Every user on WP has equal rights regardless of his nationality.
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she said, adding that she rarely ventured on to the main road for fear of what she might run into.”
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And this is an opinion piece which might be interesting for Russian participants who voted here:
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I'm sorry, are you talking to me Historic Warrior 007? If you are, please take a look at this
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Ha! The whole Knowledge (XXG) is a matter of sympathies, the policies just get in the way. (
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What sympathies? People have been killed or driven away based on their ethnicity. That's an
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It wasn't systematic. There was no forced emigration. Mass expulsion? It doesn't qualify.
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ethnic cleansing that he ordered in August 2008. Anyone like to start those articles? --
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Biophys, read your own sources. Otherwise I will use them to counter your own points.
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There is 233 relevant pages. Also to all people who say this article is against
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So according to that definition this couldn't be considered a genocide. Thanks.
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Also I ask everyone to search "ethnic cleansing geogians 2008" in Google news
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per Alex Bakharev. In fact I had already planned to start the article named
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acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing perpetrated against Ossetians. Read
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Rename to Ethnic Cleansing of Georgians in South Ossetia ----Bosoxrock88
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It is a genuine artice I think. It has sources and is being expanded.
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evidence that asserts that some form of ethnic cleansing did occur.
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cleansing. If ethnic Georgians (yes, people, and not houses) were
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Source 1: Just Putin bashing. That's not even backed up.
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