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2879:– The rename is absolutely necessary, but this article needs to be kept. The amount of coverage this game received was substantial, becoming global news in fact, and is undoubtably one of the most unique games in NFL history, as an NFL game has, to my knowledge, never been postponed and then declared a No Contest as a result of a mid-game injury. It absolutely fits the notability guidelines and will stand the test of time.
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American Football League fatalities in the early 1960s, a topic of national conversation or fodder for conspiracy theories.) If this game had continued, I would tend to agree that the topic could be covered on Hamlin's personal article, especially if he recovers. But this is notable more for the mid-game cancellation than the injury itself.
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1540:. As of now, there really isn't a need to create a separate article regarding this unfortunate incident. For now, I think that we should expand on the main article, and perhaps a separate article could be created in the future if we have a significant development. It's a bit too early to really consider making a separate article at the moment. --
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938:. If we can write a longer, separate article about it, then we should write one. And this article is longer and better than just a paragraph in the article on Hamlin. Let's write a better article and
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wiki. I think the discussion here is pretty solid on unforking this.
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2790:Definitely
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2538:Tee Higgins
2178:Strong keep
2037:No redirect
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1500:DecafPotato
1207:anti-vaxxer
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232:free images
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2589:WP:TOOSOON
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3385:talk page
3338:414 views
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2974:and that
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2771:. . .talk
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2653:bender235
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1450:recentism
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2939:articles
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2792:too soon
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2453:Flatscan
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1613:WP:MERGE
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1357:Redirect
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1335:unsigned
1297:sense.
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560:Redirect
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1329:WP:NEWS
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1055:Ayyydoc
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226:scholar
168:protect
163:history
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1676:Keep,
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705:). --
419:Maine
253:JSTOR
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