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their car and kills somebody or who stabs somebody to death while undergoing a psychotic episode is not a criminal either; I think you'll find the courts would disagree! Being suicidal, depressed, mentally ill or whatever does not abrogate you of all responsibility for the effects of your actions on other people. But we digress. Never before have I seen an editor attacked for adding an AfD to a deletion sorting page thus facilitating its wider exposure. Utterly ludicrous overreaction. --
236:. A tragic event, but no lasting coverage or enduring notability for this unusual but minor incident ("minor" for everyone but the directly involved, just like e.g. thousands of car crashes every day). Got some international attention when it happened due to the combination of "unusual" and "Abba", but such human interest articles come and go swiftly. 789:
Knowledge isn't a news outlet. Sure this has gotten some coverage in the moment, but suicides like this one often do, and I doubt it will get any kind of long-term sustained coverage once it dies down as a topic. Everything about it is literally from this month and the end of November. It's not like
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I'm sure the family of the person he killed and the person he injured don't feel he was selfish in the slightest... If you want to kill yourself then jumping onto a crowd of people is hardly the best way to do it. Presumably you also believe that someone who drinks because they're depressed, gets in
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Of course, "crime" people will be so much better at establishing notability for this non-crime recent events story than anyone else. But I'll try to remember that your definition of an encyclopedia is "a place to call some old man who may have committed suicide "selfish" for no good reason, without
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Actually, in civilized countries, being mentally ill, psychotic, ... often does mean that you are not a criminal according to law, courts, and people with some empathy. But you don't seem to understand that believing that this is not the place nor the time to discuss the guilt, selfishness, ... of
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I have no strong opinion on the moral discussion or how this conversation should be sorted but if anyone's interested the crime would, according to the police investigation, be "grovt vållande av annans död", which roughly translates to "first-degree involuntary manslaughter". Source:
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He killed somebody else by his selfishness. Had he survived he may well have been charged with a crime. And deletion sorting is purely intended to make those who may be interested in a particular subject area aware of relevant AfDs. So your comment is frankly bizarre. --
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This is an encyclopaedia. If you want to emote I suggest you move to social media instead, which would be a better fit. What possible problem is there with putting an AfD in a location where it is likely to be spotted by possible contributors to the discussion? --
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Keep This subject meets the criteria for being in an encyclopedia. There is plenty of coverage so I think it should be kept. There are plenty of Knowledge articles that include more or less celebrity gossip and other things that are not suitable for an
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the article can't be recreated if there continues to be coverage of it in a few months or whatever. In the meantime, I think this also goes against Knowledge not being a repository of basic facts. A single sentence about the "Incident" is extremely
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consideration for who might read this, just because". I hope you feel good about yourself after these priceless contributions which have made this AfD and enwiki so much better, good job.
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the same as saying that the family of the victims may not feel that way or that we mean the opposite. Sometimes, you just need to know when to shut up and show compassion.
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and there is no more media coverage about it. All sources are from the days after it happened. Also, the author is banned since they have disrupted Knowledge. See
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per nom; there isn't even any lasting local coverage. I think the article creator is a sockpuppet (am creating an SPI report) so it may even be speediable. --
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Oh well, I see that you are not really the go-to administrator when one wants to have reasoned, adult conversations instead of divisiveness
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though, which is the reason for the deletion nomination. That it was reported on internationally was already in the deletion statement...
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the person who fell or jumped, and that doing so is very insensitive, is
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Please tell me, what crime would that be? Show some decency please.
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would suggest editors believe otherwise, hence my clarification. --
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NOT NEWS. But the situation calls for neither joking nor irony.
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