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485:: It's easy to forget what people do with encyclopaedias. How many kids through history have found themselves writing about medieval castles and knights, and turned to an encyclopaedia to find the names and functions of the different bits of armour? We would be failing in our duty at a very, very fundamental level if we didn't tell them. This page may need a lot of work, particularly with references, to bring it up to scratch, but it's a subject that ought to be here, and there's definitely salvageable stuff on the page. 506:. This is basically a list article, and as list articles go, it's a far better list than the usual crap-list articles that can be easily substituted by a category. Each entry has not only an illustration but also its own article with its own sources. Sources are not needed here. And AFD is the wrong venue for discussing cleanup. I recommend the nominator withdraw this. ~ 241:, and maybe this could even be salvaged into making one, but at the same time there is likely a problem with even defining this concept (chronological range and geographical scope - European armor is not the same as Asian, for example). Not sure what is the best course of action here - rename and a list and leave unreferenced(?), rename to 334:
Agree that this isn't a great list. However, in theory it looks helpful especially since we lack a proper "medieval armour" article. Yes it's unreferenced, but there most certainly sources available since almost all linked articles have sources. It would need some overhaul, but I believe deleting it
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I don't understand either the nomination or the comments about this being a poor list - it's clear in scope, well organised, the listed items are all clearly described and illustrated. Feel free to retitle it to "list of..." if you must, but that's not an AfD matter. This is exactly the sort of
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would not be the right thing to do. The thing I would immediately scrap is the section about Japanese armor – that one feels really off, as some are just links to images. Simply have a "see also" there that points to Japanese armour (for which, surprisingly, there is an article). --
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Unreferenced old article, a case when someone confused encyclopedia with a hosting place of an image description. At best, it's very incomplete list that needs renaming and verification. I am surprised we don't have an article about
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this bad shape. If you want to delete every single article that needs rework, you would have to nominate each and every one currently tagged with
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The nom doesn't especially propose deletion; it talks vaguely about rewriting and renaming. It's classic
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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nomination of an article because it lacks sources. But sources are very easy to find and so
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Lists absolutely do need references. Of course they do. But the point is, these references
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arguments sufficient, rethinkign this I belive this can be rescued. Ping
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content I would expect to find in a general purpose encyclopaedia.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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A Record of European Armour and Arms Through Seven Centuries
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for a fun project I may even try to help with a bit. --
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