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The Tibetian Mastiff has been around for thousands of years but just became AKC recognized a couple years ago. Should the article on it have been deleted prior to AKC registration? *Furthermore, as the author of the artice, having put a good amount of effort into looking things up, learning the way to code a Knowledge article, and making it a point to use the dog breed template, I feel all I am hearing here is "this article stinks and the author should be beat to a pulp for being a moron" when what I think "here is the problem with the article, and how you can improve it" would be more in the sprit of Knowledge. *Finally, I am a little confused about this 'orginal synthesis' thing. How can anything that is not plagarism not be original synthesis?
500:. Not every combination of two breeds is notable - there are hundreds of AKC-recognized breeds, and thus tens of thousands of possible pairings (even once you exclude the totally implausible ones). Lacking any documentation that this is a particularly popular pairing, and noting in particular the article's admission that "this hybrid is not very common", there's no reason to preserve it. Google searches for the article's title and Spanish dictionary entries for the words "dwarf" and "dog" don't cut it as sources. 304:
To the person who said "I don't see why major or popular cross-breeds shouldn't be included to be honest." Thanks for that. If this article is deleted simply because this hybrid is not a common one, then to be fair every hybrid dog article needs to be deleted. Question is, where do you draw the line?
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This is original synthesis at its worst. There are 12 sources, one about a Google search, but most about either Chihuahua, or about a Corgi, in an attempt to confirm that "this mixture was bound to happen". If you place a male and a female dog, each of a different breed, in the same yard, a mixture
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The fact there is apparently not a hundred puppy mills out there cranking these dogs out by the gross is NOT is good reason to delete the article. You mention the AKC. Does that mean every dog breed that is not AKC recognized should not have an article? If a person owns a particular hybrid and there
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Why is it I feel like the "cool kids" of Knowledge are ganging up on me here? As I've said before, what is going to be the measuring stick here? AKC Registration? The fact that a breed is 'notable' because there is a lot of puppy mills out there produing the breed? If the former, then please say so
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that discuss this cross-breed. If you can find reliable sources, please do, and note that in this debate. "Original synthesis" just means there are no reliable sources available about this hybrid in particular. You simply took sources about each of the breeds individually (that is, sources about
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does it hurt if that person creates the article as long as there is no 'original synthesis' or copyright infringement? That is where this article currently stands. The Google search you mention is used to demonstrate that this hybrid is called a number of different portmanteau names, nothing
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I would like at this time to request that the deletion process for this article be put on hold so I can attempt to find better sources for it. I just got a lead on a book that might be able to help me. Thanks.
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is bound to happen. Like Leho says, we can't do an article about every single hybrid out there. There's nothing cited so far that this is a notable hybrid. It's worth a mention in the article about
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chihuahuas by themselves and sources about corgis by themselves) and synthesized (combined) them to draw your own conclusions about what characteristics the hybrid breed has.
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All original thought, oops I mean 'original synthesis' has been removed. Non-portmanteu name section will remain as it is translation from Welsh to English to Spanish.
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that provide substantial coverage of the Corgi-Chihuahua hybrid, that these searches do not fish out, then great, otherwise the article will have to be deleted.
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I don't think anyone is ganging up on you here. I chose this AfD to participate basically at random. Speaking for myself, I would like to see the basic
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for comparison, such in-depth coverage of that breed is easy to find. E.g. a GoogleNews search for "Nova Scotia Duck-Tolling Retriever" gives 138 hits
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other hybrid article. If the later, "yes, only hybrids that are 'notable' will be tolerated" then I would to point out the AKC-recognized breed
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In response to your comment on my talk page, I have no problem with articles on cross-breeds in particular. The problem is that there are
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Is wikipedia is going to do an article for every new "Designer breed" hybrid that people come up? Currently I am
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I just struck the !vote because you're only allowed one bolded vote comment. You already voted keep above.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I cannot find any reliable sources discussing this hybrid. The current article consists of
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an example of original synthesis (as there are no reliable sources to base it upon).
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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The fact that there doesn't appear to be any community of breeders of this dog
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a good reason to delete the article, though, as is the fact that the article
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about this article because I don't know if this hybrid is notable.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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requirements to be satisfied: that is, significant coverage of
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although whether they are reliable is another question.--
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while "Corgi-Chihuahua" does not. If you can find other
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —
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Corgi-Chihuahua
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22:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

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