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468:- The sources provided by NinjaRobotPirate make a good case against straight deletion. Merge should be used if anything. I also agree with Sergecross73 that there is likely to be offline info available on this game (either contemporary or in a Retro Gamer kind of magazine). I'll see if I can find anything tonight before I finalize my !vote. - 449:- While NonjaRobotPirate's sourcing is a bit light, his sources provide the type of insight to lead me to believe that, if these sources aren't enough, there are enough off-line to warrant keeping. Considering this came out pre-mid-1990's, where virtually all sources are locked away in hard copy magazines, I find this scenario likely. 332:
and Google Books, but I couldn't find any archived reviews, which was very disappointing. However, given that these sources have described it in terms of id's history, I think there's still a pretty decent argument to be made that it still satisfies the GNG. I suppose we could maybe merge it to an
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would be a satisfactory target as the early history of that release. Seeing as the sources do not go into great enough depth on the original to warrant a full article (there's much more on 3-D) and that we do not have any reviews for the original on file, would 3-D not be a better fit for the
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keep. There are reliable secondary sources online, for instance the open source'ing of them (finding the magazine sources from that time is harder, but they should exist). Also, id software and Carmack are highly influential parts of the gaming history and their early works are part of it.
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I think this could survive as an independent article, but if we did merge this somewhere, I guess it's not all that important where it goes. My thinking was that the design and legacy of this game is probably off-topic for the article on
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Largely unsourced and all potential sources are about Carmack's own history rather than this game as its own entity. (Article topic lacks
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Based on the sourcing, we could alternatively wrap into an article on the series. Do you have anything on
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shows that the game has a lasting legacy in terms of sustained interest in its source code; and
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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article on the game series, but I don't think it should be deleted.
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is another option, but I haven't looked into its sourcing/longevity.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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s design and historical significance. I tried checking through
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describes how it fit into their legacy and later games;
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