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Mazzarino (Murray monster performer) and writer (Muppets from Space, much Elmo content) to join the Muppeteers, through a class she taught. If the article is deleted, I am definitely against SALTing because I think the best source of info about her will be more from other people's articles and books - possibly even from Jim Henson's "Red Book" diary. There is definitely a "fandom" around the Muppets and their performers, I just think there will need to be extra digging to get some more sources that will be helpful.
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I don't think co-founding Kairos makes her notable. I also don't believe she meets the notability standards for actors or authors. Finally, I don't see the significant independent coverage to meet the GNG. A Muppet puppeteer being mentioned in Sesame Street magazine is not independent. There are a
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Goldilocks, Clementine, Meryl Sheep and others; she is also one of the few female Muppeteers that was with the troupe, working alongside Richard Hunt, Steve Whitmire and more. She directly
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