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influenced Joey Mazzarino (Murray monster performer) and writer (Muppets from Space, much Elmo content) to join the Muppeteers, through a class she taught. If the article is deleted, I am definitely against SALTing because I think the best source of info about her will be more from other people's articles and books - possibly even from Jim Henson's "Red Book" diary. There is definitely a "fandom" around the Muppets and their performers, I just think there will need to be extra digging to get some more sources that will be helpful.
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specifically includes voice actors, which presumably can be extended to puppeteers/voice actors. She probably also meets #2 "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following." I don't see how #2 is to be established without reference to magazines and websites related to the shows or the person.
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You've misunderstood the request for salt, its not being requested here to keep her off permanently, its being requested until we can decisively show she has the credible assertation of notability to be on site. Sometimes people are eligible for inclusion and fall short, they need that extra push to
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I don't think co-founding Kairos makes her notable. I also don't believe she meets the notability standards for actors or authors. Finally, I don't see the significant independent coverage to meet the GNG. A Muppet puppeteer being mentioned in Sesame Street magazine is not independent. There are a
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She worked many of the recurring puppets appearing on Sesame Street, including better-known ones such as Goldilocks, Clementine, Meryl Sheep and others; she is also one of the few female Muppeteers that was with the troupe, working alongside Richard Hunt, Steve Whitmire and more. She directly
615:: the closing admin must discount the views above which say that the page should be deleted because it has been three times already. The page has been deleted twice under CSD and once under BLPPROD—in each previous case, what was being assessed was the 446:. I'm hard-pressed to find widespread RS for her. Obviously Sesame Street Magazine would have an article about her. Otherwise, I see a few passing mentions in books saying that she voiced this or that character. This doesn't meet GNG. 485:, having had "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" - the article lists multiple notable films and shows, over at least an 11 year period (1985-1996). - and 206: 348: 368: 570:
get across the finish line and thats whats happened here. The article's come back with the same content and citations several times, if it is to stay it needs better content and more citations.
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She clearly has performed in non-trivial roles in a number of notable movies and television shows. The article is hardly great, but it passes
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This has been deleted three separate times for having no credible ascertation of notability. This time, I'm proposing that it be deleted AND
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I've taken a stab at improving the article with what I could find and access in a day and a half. Hopefully, it helps.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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http://www.muppetcentral.com/forum/threads/camille-bonora-appreciation-thread.59469/
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per nom. Really a fourth deletion discussion shouldn't be needed.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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few passing mentions, but that's not enough to show notability.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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shows some potential areas to find content for her article.
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so we don't have to waltz this waltz a fourth time.
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