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record labels of way lesser note which have had their articles remain intact, with the goal of improving upon said articles. This record label clearly passes the smell test for both notability and credibility in today's music industry, as both the article's references and a quick web search reaffirm. You do make some interesting points
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There seems to be some longstanding disagreement going back a few years between the two primary contributors to this article. While I respect everybody's opinions and previous contributions, I simply see no justification for the deletion of this article at this time, especially with regards to other
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is not close to being met. My standards on notability for record labels are looser than most, but this is not notable by record label standards in that it has no length of history, no roster of notable artists, and can not claim to have made any perceptible impact on the direction of any particular
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I agree with the re-direct, and that was it's state before the article was re-created, yet again. The re-direct is useful. Repeated re-creation of this unrelated, non-notable label is not. The re-direct needs to be protected so that only extended-confirmed can edit, and I would do so except I am
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and the label is clearly notable in today's music industry as evidenced by its reputable sources, so at worst this article should be kept as a record label stub and added to as time goes by. I would stub it myself, but obviously I too am "very involved", so I will wait for another editor to do so.
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I simply do not see anything new at all which has changed in the interim to sway my opinion from the previous AfD discussion above. I do agree with the editor who "stubbed" this article (again) recently though, as this article is the perfect Record Label Stub type article in my opinion while more
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Article has clear credible media sources and any label under Capitol Music and Universal getting mainstream news coverage is notable. The issue in the previous AfD appears to have been adequately addressed by the new article's author, so I respectfully disagree with you on this point Rosguill.
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I have no conflict of interest and have based my updated article on current newsworthy mainstream entertainment media sources. The article has been updated using such appropriately , and I even made a new edit to satisfy the question of any unclear connection to the
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genre. Having a joint venture (distribution deal) with a major label does not inherit notability for a record label. Now.... if Rhames goes on to have a #1 record, or even begins to sniff the charts, then we can re-evaluate, but at the very best this is
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Not commenting on the reliability of the sources, the first source gives a drive-by mention, and the second source does not mention the label at all. Therefore
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or otherwise. I think Music2015's update was justified and the article should remain, albeit with further improvements as time goes by. --
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Non-notable record label re-created again by editor with what I strongly believe to be an undeclared COI.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Article’s references are both current and reputable enough to establish clear notability.
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as a business. No redirect, as it will just get recreated, unless protection is applied.
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and the only thing that can be done with the article is to give a redirect to
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fail. Last AfD was a redirect, no issue if that's the ultimate decision here.
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This article should be a Stub for now with AfD consideration withdrawn. --
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notable information and reliable sources get added to it over time. --
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You've already voted keep above, so I have struck your second vote.
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You've already voted keep above, so I have struck your second vote.
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You've already voted keep above, so I have struck your third vote.
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none of the issues raised in the previous AfD have been addressed.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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list of United States of America-related deletion discussions
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and pointing at nonexistent "clear credible media sources".
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