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in connection with local events and services (again entirely routine for someone in his position), and the articles about the art where again he is simply being quoted. Parish priests are inevitably going to be used as a local/community voice in local stories, especially if it's something that is a particular interest of theirs, so it's hardly surprising to see his name pop up all over the place, but it's not enough to establish notability.
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Graves of Muslim sailors who joined allies in WWII are rediscovered; Burial places of 11 Indonesians given new headstones during ceremony in Liverpool cemetery were they had been forgotten... On Thursday, the forgotten graves were rededicated in a special service conducted by the rector of Liverpool,
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establishes notability. In this case, for me, it does not. Leaving aside the non-independent sources such as his school, his churches etc, we are left with little other than an announcement in the local paper of him taking up his post (which is entirely routine for a parish priest), him being quoted
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which have rather soured my view of this article, I would be happy to be convinced that Pailing's support for public art does make him notable. From what I've read Pailing mostly seems to be mentioned incidentally in connection with public art in Liverpool, but he is not the subject any coverage at
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I think that being a part of a major church makes him notable. In addition, his support for public art in Liverpool, which appears to be notable and it features in other articles. He also meets the criteria for high profile people (which for some reason I now can't find!) and so I think that he is
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Queen Elizabeth sails into Liverpool on Monday 23rd July and we want to give her a big Scouse welcome (the cruise ship, not the monarch) will be marked by a special service at Liverpool Parrish Church led by the Rector of Liverpool the Revd Dr Crispin Pailing. In the congregation will be civic
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The sculpture will be unveiled as part of a Conference organised by Liverpool Parish Church... There is space for you to sit on the bench: would you choose to sit next to a homeless person? Would you sit on a bench next to Jesus? – Revd Canon Dr Crispin Pailing, Rector of
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I think that being of a notable parish which has notable things does make him a candidate for a Knowledge (XXG) article. I also think that the Art that he has brought to Liverpool is of a high standard and notable. The art he has brought includes
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He does appear in national news and on national television many times. I think that this and all of his civic and interfaith work puts him on a par with an archdeacon (a post which normally receives a Knowledge (XXG) article).
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In addition there is news coverage about his activities. Major parish probably makes him notable, sourcing looks promising. Page creator, a new editor, could be encouraged - I'll get back to this in a day or
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I think he is a notable priest and that he falls in line with Knowledge (XXG)'s notability guidelines. He has appeared in national news so I think that Crispin Pailing is a worthy inclusion.
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Liverpool marks Merchant Navy Day with special service and wreath laying ceremony. The Rector of Liverpool, the Revd Dr Crispin Pailing, will lead the service
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New Rector of Liverpool relishes his fresh challenge in city with 'a real buzz about it'; 39-year-old dad-of-two is the parish's youngest rector since 1949
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and presides official civic ceremonies; reminder: England has an established church. So there is a lot of stuff along the lines of,
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the coverage is local news stuff, that we expect for any local official, it does not rise to the level of showing notability.
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Ivor Browning seems to be a Master Sock of the two other socks who also Ivoted on this page. See sockpuppet investigation
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It would be very useful if you can bring examples of national news coverage of his work and career to this discussion.
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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dignitaries, including the Lord Mayor of Liverpool, the Master of Queen Elizabeth Captain Aseem Hashmi and ...
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the Rev Dr Crispin Pailing, with Islamic prayers said by Imam Waddah Saleh of the Abdullah Quilliam Society."
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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BabelStone put it nicely. And JP Lambert already said what I was going to say. —
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As rector of Liverpool's Anglican parish church, Pailing is called the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Lusitania sinking centenary marked by memorial services
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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The Blade of the Northern Lights
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policies and guidelines
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assume good faith
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single-purpose accounts
spa
canvassed
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sockpuppetry
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Articles for deletion
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Introduction to deletion process
Guide to deletion
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Help, my article got nominated for deletion!
Crispin Pailing
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