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Santiago" didn't come back on a search for "Curtis Santiago". The name Talwst isn't in the present article, so how would anyone have known how include it in a search? I had to pick over your sources in some detail before I was even able to say with reasonable certainty they're the same guy - only two
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all by itself if it's the only source you can show. This was a good faith creation under the much looser notability standards of 2007, when it was first created — but our inclusion standards have been tightened up considerably in the intervening 13 years, and under the standards of 2020 his
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of the sources mention his musical career, and none in any detail that matches what's in the article as currently written. You're not wrong that the sources indicate notability as a visual artist, but you could be more polite about it. ♠
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notability claim and its sourcing just aren't enough anymore.
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