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499:. The text purports to be about a test, yet this is a test that was distinctly not notable when it was ostensibly used and is still not notable enough now. There are only two scientific research-papers, one dated 1993, and one 2006, extant about the subject. The rest are explanations of the term in sports websites ( 557:
article, for example, was a couple paragraphs that covered it fairly superficially; neither the Maitland et al. nor the Bayar et al. articles were actually about the test and focused on its role as a generic isokinetic testing system; Cowboyswire mentions it exactly once in a list of others; USA
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This article has no sources and its only links are to a seemingly defunct website disguised as official information about the NFL combine and the website of the manufacturer of the machinery used to carry out the Cybex test. This is a thinly veiled advertisement for that company's work and the
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I'm not sure I agree that those constitute sufficient coverage. The last two only mention the test in passing, and the two scholarly articles refer to the test only as the apparatus that happens to be used for those medical examinations. The first one is the only one that covers the test in
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I would say this subject is a pretty niche test when it comes to the grand scheme of NFL player recruitment, and even more niche in terms of Knowledge as a whole. If this content is kept, I feel it might be better to merge it with another article than to retain a standalone article. –
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sufficient depth, and even then its scope is limited. AfD may not be a substitute for cleanup, but if no one is willing to perform that cleanup, how long can we justifiably allow an article with unsubstantiated notability to remain on the encyclopaedia? –
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Today mentions it once in a long article not about or related to the test. There is certainly no long-term notability. I have been unable to find actual substantial non-trivial secondary coverage in reliable sources. Best,
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Would you mind providing some of the sources you've found that indicate this topic's notability? It's all well and good saying it, but if you can't prove it, the closing admin should probably ignore your comments. –
217: 455: 463:, etc. Many more but I really don't have time to be posting hundreds of links here right now when you can Google it yourself. These include scholarly papers, news articles, etc. Clearly sufficient. 264: 170: 211: 515:
the eponymous machine that was used for the test, whereby the machine & the-company-producing-it are also non-notable. The fact that the text was uploaded by a
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Found a lot of stuff online in the news and third party sources about this, seems to have significant coverage. Article needs editing, but AFD is not cleanup.--
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Article has notability but isn't really fit to stay on the project as-is because it has no sources. Send to draft space via
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In that case, as I requested below, I think it would be nice to see some examples of this extensive coverage of the test. –
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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article seems to have no particular encyclopaedic relevance. –
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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