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of the MoH upgrade effort. It is ridiculous to claim that a front page news story is 'short' as it is one of the longest stories by word count in the newspaper that day, and the story is about him as it contains biographical information, not simply the effort to upgrade his Navy Cross. Again, the success or failure of an upgrade attempt is irrelevant as there is still significant coverage of Mendez either way. All three newspapers are each RS and these articles are focused on Mendez himself so they are by definition multiple RS.
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The correctness of the first source is irrelevant as the quoted family member may have been misinformed, but either way it still demonstrates coverage. The Staten Island news coverage cannot simply be discounted as it shows that Mendez receives coverage over a long period of time despite the failure
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First source incorrectly states he was awarded the Medal of Honor; 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th sources are all Staten Island News, i.e. his local newspaper where he is obviously a local hero. The story in the
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The article was not completely wrong. I added and removed incorrect information because of how the resource stated the information. The 50th anniversary of his death was honored by the community in a ceremony. A school was renamed in his honor. Those two sources have been added for you to now come
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Please contact me if you have some direction to follow or the filing of Angels upgrade submission. If you have some type of official document regarding angel's up grade it would serve as great help to us all. Again, I can't express how important a formal document at this point would help. Please
372:, saving someone notable doesn't confer notability. The upgrade request was filed in 2003, so it seems very unlikely that it will happen. Having a Post Office named after you doesn't establish notability, we have soldiers who had U.S. Navy ships named after them fail notability and be deleted.
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has recommended that Mendez' award be upgraded to the Medal of Honor, the United States highest military decoration. The St. George Post Office in Staten Island was renamed and is now known as the "Sergeant Angel Mendez Post Office." and you're telling me he is not notable?
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contact me on face book. My name is
Michael Sulsona. You can also get in touch with me through the Stephen Siller Foundation. I am a Vietnam vet myself, Marine and lost both legs in comat and currently working as a service officer. Thanks!
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