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of the MoH upgrade effort. It is ridiculous to claim that a front page news story is 'short' as it is one of the longest stories by word count in the newspaper that day, and the story is about him as it contains biographical information, not simply the effort to upgrade his Navy Cross. Again, the success or failure of an upgrade attempt is irrelevant as there is still significant coverage of Mendez either way. All three newspapers are each RS and these articles are focused on Mendez himself so they are by definition multiple RS.
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The correctness of the first source is irrelevant as the quoted family member may have been misinformed, but either way it still demonstrates coverage. The Staten Island news coverage cannot simply be discounted as it shows that Mendez receives coverage over a long period of time despite the failure
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First source incorrectly states he was awarded the Medal of Honor; 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th sources are all Staten Island News, i.e. his local newspaper where he is obviously a local hero. The story in the Philadelphia Inquirer is just a short piece about the (unsuccessful) attempt to upgrade his Navy
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The article was not completely wrong. I added and removed incorrect information because of how the resource stated the information. The 50th anniversary of his death was honored by the community in a ceremony. A school was renamed in his honor. Those two sources have been added for you to now come
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Please contact me if you have some direction to follow or the filing of Angels upgrade submission. If you have some type of official document regarding angel's up grade it would serve as great help to us all. Again, I can't express how important a formal document at this point would help. Please
372:, saving someone notable doesn't confer notability. The upgrade request was filed in 2003, so it seems very unlikely that it will happen. Having a Post Office named after you doesn't establish notability, we have soldiers who had U.S. Navy ships named after them fail notability and be deleted. 726:
A US Post Office named after him gives him notability. United States Post Offices are established by the United States Congress as written in the United States Constitution. So a United States Post Office is not just some insignificant building, like say a corner store might
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has recommended that Mendez' award be upgraded to the Medal of Honor, the United States highest military decoration. The St. George Post Office in Staten Island was renamed and is now known as the "Sergeant Angel Mendez Post Office." and you're telling me he is not notable?
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contact me on face book. My name is Michael Sulsona. You can also get in touch with me through the Stephen Siller Foundation. I am a Vietnam vet myself, Marine and lost both legs in comat and currently working as a service officer. Thanks!
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The namesakes of USN ships who have been redirected are entirely different as those soldiers lacked significant coverage and often their existence could only be sourced to one source, which is not the case here.
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too. I do think the article needs sections heavily trimming or rewriting as sections seem to read like a eulogy, perhaps by someone with a sentimental agenda to push, but the subject is noteworthy.--
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First source must be ignored due to fundamental error, so there are two sources, three stories in his local paper and one in the Philadelphia Inquirer, not SIGCOV in multiple RS.
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Sorry, the way I read the article, the way it's written it sounded / read like it was a done deal. My vote is still keep because he's received significant coverage. --
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is coverage, not achievement based, and Mendez passes the coverage bar with significant coverage in multiple independent RS newspapers. He is the subject of a
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If an individual has a US federal building named after him, he is notable, end of the Notability argument. This was the case with this soldier. (
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saving someone notable does not make someone notable. A reccomendation for an upgrade is not an upgrade, he does not meet inclusion criteria.
556:- He was awarded the Medal of Honor and his family accepted his Medal of Honor on Memorial Day 2008 in San Juan Puerto Rico. The source is 419: 90: 83: 17: 557: 136: 131: 140: 796:"On January 03, 2012, President Barack Obama signed into law the designation of this post office in Honor of Sergeant Mendez." 675:"On January 03, 2012, President Barack Obama signed into law the designation of this post office in Honor of Sergeant Mendez." 732: 630: 601: 565: 59: 104: 100: 217: 771: 123: 820: 184: 1050: 40: 691:
A post office? I'd understand your argument with something like a proper federal office building, but a post office?
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That's not true, some had more than one source, but never amounted to SIGCOV in multiple RS, just like Mendez.
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receive the Medal of Honor. Look at www.cmohs.org, he's not listed there. Your source is wrong.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Come back the day you have a PO named after you and we can discuss that further. Thank you.
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It's about having SIGCOV in multiple RS, not one Post Office named after him.
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Yes, the article was completely wrong. What SIGCOV in what RS?
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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has been on WP for 1 day and comes to this discussion...
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Article definitely meets 787: 967: 560:Newspress Fort Myers, May 15, 2008. -- 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 237:. A sergeant who received a single 852:is an essay, and not a guideline. 24: 1024:- Per WP:GNG. Sources are good. 915:. 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