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As I have pointed out before, WP has only about half the hull losses of much more significant aircraft like 727s and DC9s with articles. In fact articles have been deleted that are hull losses. For the Short360, exactly 2 out of 16 hull losses have articles. The first Short hull loss don't have an
478:: Despite the hull loss there is very little notability in this accident. If proof of significant changes to aircraft design maintenance or operations can be directly attributed to this incident then there would be a case for keeping it.-- 208: 524:
there is no enduring coverage beyond an immediate recounting of the event, no analysis. If enduring coverage is found or the article is otherwise kept, ping me and I will add these sources.--
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this was indeed "Damaged beyond repair", but also that "The cockpit and passenger cabin were relatively undamaged and there was no fire". What is lacking here - is
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If air-crash articles are being wrongly deleted (and they are, as we saw with the recent discussion about
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Not notable incident. At most this deserves is a mention in a airport or airline article.
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article. What is notable about this one from the thousands of other hull losses?
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I found significant coverage in newspaper archives on 1 February 1986, but per
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had three recommendations, but I haven't found evidence they came to anything.
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