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716:: I did think of that and it's a valid concern. What made me try a group is the issues related to needing AfD are common to all the articles. I didn't nominate more because I saw this as a test of a group nomination. There very well might be sources I didn't find for some, and this might not work entirely, but the closer might be able to find a good resolution if there is a general consensus on most of the articles. But I acknowledge this is a valid concern. 793:. Batman and Superman are the only two I was thinking might have actual justification for articles, but it would be more of a scholarly discussion on the various interpretations and differences in personality and character. I have no idea if sources actually exist to back such a topic, so the current rendition of the Batman article definitely does not need to exist. 807:
I read a thoughtful article once about the various incarnations of Batman. It discussed how the premise was a universal one that could be successfully applied to virtually any time or place in a way that Iron Man or Captain America couldn't. I don't recall where it was, other than it was in print,
907:. Bundled nominations are not helpful but almost all of them are clear fails of GNG and such. Through it may be better to have Batman/CA in their own discussions, those have a slightly higher chance of getting a source or two. But even then, merge would be best. This is just excessive fancruft. -- 873:- Yeah, I would split this up into about several separate nominations. "Alternate versions" content forks are not automatically fancruft by definition (especially for more iconic characters like the Riddler and Captain America), so I would suggest making the case for each. Case of point - 924:
I haven't checked for Captain America, but for Batman, there's a lot more than just two of them (the topic is covered extensively by media outlets). An administrator can go ahead and close this, but I can guarantee you that almost all of these are getting added to the
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Exactly. TTN (and some of the same recurring voters) seems to operating under the assumption that every content fork with the word "Alternative versions" in the title is automatic fancruft by definition, which is complete bollucks
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alone is proof of that). If this banal proposal actually passes, I'll have to include all of these articles in with
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in the list of articles that need to be rediscussed due to botched and poorly handled spam-AfDs.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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or redirect all - These are completely unnecessary splits for the purpose of shoving off
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based on primary sources. There are no sources that discuss this as a group
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and I don't think it would justify the list we currently have.
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