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sense, such that one can't infer anything about an athlete's general level of participation in international (such as it was) or national competition from the fact of his/her participation in the Olympics. That said, I am inclined to think that participation qua participation is sufficient to establish notability, and that, given the difficulties one would have in establishing which of the "modern Olympics" should be treated with the reverence with which we treat "recent 'modern Olympics'", it is perhaps best that we err on the side of including any participants for whom any information is available.
208:, irrespective of his competition at the Games or of his general tennis history, merits an article), it is probably fair to say that an athlete who competed in the an early Summer Games is not necessarily notable solely for his/her having participated. It's a close call, though, and I certainly understand that some may think it best to consider participation in the Olympics as passing a bright-line rule. 268: 204:, where the singles competition was won by an Irishman on vacation in Greece who was entered by a friend on a whim and where the doubles competition was won by that Irishman and his first-round singles opponent, who was at the games to compete in athletics). While medalling in an Olympic event is notable per se (such that the Irishman, 200:
participated in the first several iterations of the Modern Olympics, and, in some cases, all competitors in a given event hailed from the host country. One's participating, then, didn't necessarily mean that he/she was at the top of his/her sport internationally, only that he/she was in the right place at the right time (see, e.g.,
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I tried to add those names, but my list was lost, and Im not about to redo it. Either way, the others are even less notable than Baumann. They have no dates of birth or death, most only have one name given, and most of their finishes are not known at all, or atleast only to the extent that they didnt
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As I wrote in my comment above, participation in an early edition of the modern Olympics didn't necessarily denote anything about a participant's athletic proficiency; many participants in the first few modern iterations weren't athletes by trade and weren't required to qualify in the contemporary
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I'm inclined to support "keep", but it should be noted that the fact of one's competing in the Olympics in 1896 (or even 1900, 1904, or 1908) surely doesn't resolve the question of notability as might the fact of one's competing in, say, the Athens or Turin Games. Importantly, few countries
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I noticed that there is a category for 1896 Olympic shooters, and most of them are even less notable than this guy, as in they didnt finish the competition or their finishing place was not known. I am adding those as we speak, so please do not point that out as some sort of double
153:, Clearly, Albert Baumann is more notable than Nidorino, so if Nidorino gets its own page, why the heck can't Albert Baumann? But seriously, anyone who participated in the Olympics (regardless of rank), can be qualified for a Knowledge article. As quoted from 473:
per past precedent; all Olympic competitors seem to clearly qualify under the criteria for sportspeople, since there isn't a level of competition in their sports higher than the Olympics. This seems like a textbook "Knowledge is not paper" situation.
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or better still put the info with other similar figures in an article and use the page as a redirect. It should be possible to search for any Olympic athlete on Wiki and find something about them. It's history and historical information is valid.
291:, about ten thousand athletes have competed in each recent summer Olympic games and about three thousand in each winter games. I don't think that they are all notable enough for an article. I think that the medal winners is enough. -- 326:. Not everyone gets to be in the Olympics. Should a person who placed 8th in the Olympics last year have their article deleted in 100 years for no particular reason except that 100 is a big number? β€” 99:
finish very high. If there was more biographical information known, or they received a medal, I would say differently, but as it is now, they didnt, so I continue to support my AfD.--
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When I go to the Olympics maybe I'll think different, but I think anyone who goes to the Olympics passes the - Any Olympian including
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The name could be added to a list of shooters, but no way does this person deserve his own article.
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Really, is an article about a shooter who placed 8th in the Olympics a century ago really notable?
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Note - 26 of the 39 articles in that category have been linked to this deletion at this point. --
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competition of equivalent standing in an individual professional sport
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133:. All Olympians are notable. There's plenty of precedent. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 499:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 137:is the most recent one I'm aware of. -- 226:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Lecomte 135:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Lecomte 7: 202:Tennis at the 1896 Summer Olympics 24: 187:Good point. I'm changing my vote 266: 224:as per my strenuous argument in 173: 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 44:The result of the debate was 516: 53:11:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC) 479:16:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC) 466:06:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC) 427:05:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC) 414:05:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC) 402:04:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC) 397:All Olympic competitors. 376:That Guy, From That Show! 348:01:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC) 319:14:58, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 296:14:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 284:05:58, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 272:05:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 237:05:00, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 213:05:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 192:05:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 181:04:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 146:04:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 126:04:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 104:05:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 93:05:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 79:04:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 69:04:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC) 492:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 359:is more notable than 279:per TBC and Jonel. 389: 336: 335:β€’ 2006-04-5 19:06 179: 507: 494: 452: 443: 391: 381: 378: 364: 363: 332: 327: 310: 270: 264: 255: 250: 234:Have your say!!! 206:John Pius Boland 178: 177: 171: 168: 165: 34: 515: 514: 510: 509: 508: 506: 505: 504: 503: 497:deletion review 490: 464: 463: 455: 454: 450: 446: 445: 441: 374: 371: 334: 330: 308: 262: 253: 246: 189:YellowPigNowNow 169: 166: 163: 123:YellowPigNowNow 62: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 513: 511: 502: 501: 484: 482: 481: 476:Colin Kimbrell 468: 457: 456: 448: 447: 439: 438: 429: 419:Very weak keep 416: 404: 392: 365: 357:Albert Baumann 350: 337: 328: 321: 298: 286: 274: 239: 218: 217: 216: 215: 184: 183: 148: 128: 96: 95: 61: 59:Albert Baumann 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 512: 500: 498: 493: 487: 486: 485: 480: 477: 472: 469: 467: 462: 461: 453: 444: 437: 433: 430: 428: 425: 420: 417: 415: 412: 408: 405: 403: 400: 396: 393: 390: 388: 384: 380: 377: 369: 366: 362: 358: 354: 351: 349: 346: 341: 338: 333: 325: 322: 320: 317: 314: 311: 306: 302: 299: 297: 294: 290: 287: 285: 282: 278: 275: 273: 269: 265: 259: 256: 251: 249: 243: 240: 238: 235: 231: 227: 223: 220: 219: 214: 211: 207: 203: 198: 195: 194: 193: 190: 186: 185: 182: 176: 172: 160: 156: 152: 149: 147: 144: 140: 136: 132: 129: 127: 124: 121: 117: 113: 112: 108: 107: 106: 105: 102: 94: 91: 87: 83: 82: 81: 80: 77: 71: 70: 67: 60: 57: 55: 54: 51: 50:Mailer Diablo 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 491: 488: 483: 470: 459: 431: 418: 409:per kjkolb. 406: 394: 379: 372: 367: 353:Strong Keep' 352: 339: 323: 300: 288: 276: 247: 241: 221: 196: 158: 150: 130: 119: 115: 110: 109: 97: 72: 63: 45: 43: 31: 28: 370:per above. 303:per TBC. -- 74:standard.-- 411:Fishhead64 399:Scranchuse 383:2006-04-06 244:per TBC. 118:per TBC 436:Argon233 361:Nidorino 345:Tyrenius 281:Sue Anne 230:Blnguyen 197:Comment 101:Pal5017 76:Pal5017 66:Pal5017 432:Delete 407:Delete 293:Kjkolb 289:Delete 155:WP:BIO 111:Delete 385:04:00 316:e Ong 143:Speak 139:Jonel 90:Speak 86:Jonel 16:< 471:Keep 395:Keep 373:β€”-- 368:Keep 340:Keep 331:0918 324:Keep 301:Keep 277:Keep 242:Keep 222:Keep 151:Keep 131:Keep 116:Keep 46:keep 424:Joe 305:Ter 263:fan 260:ash 254:boy 248:Roy 210:Joe 313:nc 258:cr 232:| 141:| 114:. 88:| 48:. 474:- 460:∠ 451:ΒΆ 442:@ 387:Z 309:e 170:C 167:B 164:T

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Mailer Diablo
11:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Albert Baumann
Pal5017
04:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Pal5017
04:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Jonel
Speak
05:05, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Pal5017
05:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
YellowPigNowNow
04:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Lecomte
Jonel
Speak
04:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
WP:BIO
TBC

04:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
YellowPigNowNow
05:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Tennis at the 1896 Summer Olympics
John Pius Boland
Joe
05:12, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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