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140:, and because it is not, and will never be, properly sourced and fact checked. The Aleister Crowley article already mentions that Crowley crops up here and there in music, film, and print, but none of the items in this list of trivia would bear mentioning in the article. (Yes, I read them all.) Many of them merely mention characters named "Crowley", or things rumored to take Crowley as inspiration. 237:
Yeah, sort of the point is to avoid that cycle, by at least having a community action that rejects lists of trivia. But if limited to verified items, at least that addresses one thing. Unless someone steps up and tries to verify these things, though, that's going to consist of about two items.
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with the main Crowley article as he is a legitimate figure in popular culture. I suggest to the nominator that if he/she has an issue with the "in popular culture" article that he/she seek policy change, as to my understanding they are not prohibited so that alone is an invalid rationale for
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These messy lists of references have no place in an encyclopedia, either as part of an article or as stand-alones. They are research notes rather than article sections and should be replaced with structured paragraphs (though in many cases outright deletion wouldn't be much of a loss).
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of barely related items, almost uniformly lacking references and entirely lacking any real-world context. This list is so bad, it gathers items that aren't even related to Crowley because someone somewhere thought once that maybe Crowley was pictured when he wasn't.
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the rest, as per the above. I share Mango's concern that we'll just see it again shortly, but I'm not sure that's avoidable with a topic of such notoriety. —
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Completely unsourced list of apperances or possible appearances, most with only minmal ties to the subject. None of the entries appear to be
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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and I strongly oppose the merge of this info. It would cause the trivia section to dominate the guy's article
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per nom. This is useless listcruft, with no criteria for inclusion on the list, and no way to maintain.
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but only after a substantial trim to a handful of meaningful and verifiable entries. Alternatively
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it and have the Crowley article build up a tightly controlled verifiable popular culture section.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Merge to main Aleister Crowley article, or move to that article namespace as a subpage. --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I can't find a single thing on the list that is notable enough (
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deletion. In this case, however, a merge is a better idea.
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that would do nothing but detract from the main article.
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I for one strongly oppose merging. It is unencyclopedic
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to be an indiscriminant collection of information per
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