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Central/Northern European cuisine, however there is little information on it and article itself makes no such claim - it is on traditional Latvian dessert and there is no such traditional Latvian dessert. If you Google it's proper name in Latvian - "Aleksandra torte" turns up only 137 results, plus 88 for "Aleksandra kūka" in them you got some article on Latvian Australians learning to cook it, TV chef Mārtiņš Rītiņš teaching to cook it, one person's blog in which she claims her father used to cook it, plus one company manufactures cake with such name (though I am not sure that is the same thing). That makes it four sorces proving that some Latvians acctualy know about it, and none claim on it being traditional ~~
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