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596:. I don't have anything against articles about highly specialized topics. I think this topic is notable enough so that an expert (or at least someone with copious amounts of spare time and a good understanding of basic science) could write a good article about it. However, I see nothing salvageable in the current version of the article, and being so specialized it seems unlikely that it will improve anytime soon. It is so filled with inaccuracies and confused writing that I think the best solution is to turn it into a redirect for now. However, if someone writes something better in the future I won't object. -- 401:, just not a legitimate article. I'm not disputing that apples turn brown (and for a scientific reason, no less!) as you seem to be implying. I'm saying it's already covered in the links provided above. Simply that. I've noticed that you are improving the article, which is good. I'll be more than happy to withdraw my nom if you (or any editor) can show me how 510:
Apples and pears are similar - both are in the same sub-family as is medlar and quince. Grape is different. I smile when you don't see the relevance of individual articles of a TV program getting the 'Knowledge (XXG) stamp of approval' in comparison to 'apple oxidation'. It would be easier to get
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I removed the speedy tag on this article and have attempted some cleanup. Upon reading (and rereading), I've come to the conclusion that this article is most likely a school project, almost like a topical report. The creator is a s.p.a and has made no other contributions. The article's subject
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I have no doubt it is a real subject. I didn't say it was fake. I am asserting that the subject is already covered elsewhere in Knowledge (XXG), and has been for many months/years prior to this essay. Did you read the links I provided in my nom statement and compare them to this article,
575:. Far too specific a topic, should be a subheading of one the two previous articles. You wouldn't write a separate article about peeling an orange or how pears get ripe, now would you? This should have been added to Apple or Browning in the first place. 309:
Yes, but your links don't specifically deal with 'Apple oxidation'. Knowledge (XXG) does allow for such specific articles. And, it is possible to make this article FA. It doesn't suffer from notability problems. It is just badly written. The
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I don't follow you. 'Apple oxidation' is notable by any definition. Scientific journal articles deal with the topic specifically. Books are written about it, specifically. Compare this to the dozens of articles on specific episodes of
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states simply that editors should work on improving pages, without regarding perfection, because it can be fixed later. It is not a reason to delete an article. Actually, what policy are you basing the deletion request on? Cheers!
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funding to do 'apple oxidaton' research than to do the same thing over an individual episode of The Simpsons! Only on Knowledge (XXG), does such weirdness reign. Cheers!
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as trivial essay. There may be a home forthis somewhere, but not on WP. Ref 1 is "Science Fair Projects", which is where this belongs, not in an encyclopedia.
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Those are reasons for re-writing the article: not deleting it. The topic is not original research. It is super easy to find journal references. See:
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as possible school project. Nonetheless, it's an essay full of original research, and is covered more thoroughly at other pages.
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By the way, in university, apple physiology, storage and oxidation was one of the topics covered in an apple course. Cheers!
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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This article could easily be re-written to Knowledge (XXG) standards. The basic thesis is definitley
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doesn't seem relevant. If we are getting waxy, then there should probably be an article titled
267:. No doubt it originated as a science fair project. But it is a real agriculture topic. Cheers! 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Do apples turn brown (oxidize) in a significantly different way then
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that have reached GA or FA status, and your argument falls apart. If
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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cannot be deleted, then there is room for an article about
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is significant/notable enough to have it's own article.
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I'll state again, I didn't say this wasn't a legitimate
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can be FA on Knowledge (XXG), then there is room for
39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 665:). No further edits should be made to this page. 371:Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture 8: 546:, and merge any salvageable content into 447:The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson 438:The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 48:, mainly due to notability reasons. 149:matter is already well covered at 24: 594:Merge/delete/redirect/whatever 1: 569:Browning (chemical process) 548:Browning (chemical process) 155:Browning (chemical process) 682: 648:04:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC) 627:04:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC) 606:14:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC) 589:00:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC) 560:22:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 521:22:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 506:21:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 463:21:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 426:21:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 393:21:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 363:21:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 327:21:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 305:20:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 277:20:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 253:17:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 228:17:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 209:17:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 190:17:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC) 78:03:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC) 658:Please do not modify it. 218:- as original research. 32:Please do not modify it. 379:10.1002/jsfa.2740020803 451:apples turning brown. 338:. Also, please read 243:or a school project. 403:apples turning brown 249:Strange Frequencies 565:Merge and redirect 284:Wassupwestcoast? 629: 617:comment added by 502: 422: 359: 301: 265:original research 251: 237:original research 206: 186: 673: 660: 612: 586: 503: 500: 495: 489: 423: 420: 415: 409: 382: 360: 357: 352: 346: 302: 299: 294: 288: 247: 239:, seems to be a 204: 202: 201:Ten Pound Hammer 187: 184: 179: 173: 139: 133: 115: 75: 73: 72: 63: 44:The result was 34: 681: 680: 676: 675: 674: 672: 671: 670: 669: 663:deletion review 656: 582: 513:Wassupwestcoast 499: 493: 487: 483:Grape oxidation 471:any other fruit 455:Wassupwestcoast 443:Apple Oxidation 419: 413: 407: 385:Wassupwestcoast 368: 356: 350: 344: 319:Wassupwestcoast 298: 292: 286: 269:Wassupwestcoast 200: 183: 177: 171: 135: 106: 92:Apple Oxidation 90: 87: 84:Apple Oxidation 74: 70: 68: 66: 50: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 679: 677: 668: 667: 651: 650: 619:147.226.220.56 609: 608: 591: 562: 540: 539: 538: 537: 536: 535: 534: 533: 532: 531: 530: 529: 528: 527: 526: 525: 524: 523: 479:Pear oxidation 313:Editing policy 280: 279: 255: 241:personal essay 230: 212: 211: 205:and his otters 146: 145: 86: 81: 67: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 678: 666: 664: 659: 653: 652: 649: 645: 641: 640: 635: 632: 631: 630: 628: 624: 620: 616: 607: 603: 599: 595: 592: 590: 587: 585: 580: 579: 574: 570: 566: 563: 561: 557: 553: 549: 545: 542: 541: 522: 518: 514: 509: 508: 507: 504: 496: 490: 484: 481:, as well as 480: 476: 472: 468: 467: 466: 465: 464: 460: 456: 452: 448: 444: 440: 439: 434: 429: 428: 427: 424: 416: 410: 404: 400: 396: 395: 394: 390: 386: 380: 376: 372: 366: 365: 364: 361: 353: 347: 341: 337: 333: 330: 329: 328: 324: 320: 315: 314: 308: 307: 306: 303: 295: 289: 282: 281: 278: 274: 270: 266: 263: 259: 256: 254: 250: 246: 242: 238: 234: 231: 229: 225: 221: 217: 214: 213: 210: 203: 197: 194: 193: 192: 191: 188: 180: 174: 168: 164: 160: 156: 152: 143: 138: 131: 127: 123: 119: 114: 110: 105: 101: 97: 93: 89: 88: 85: 82: 80: 79: 76: 64: 61: 57: 53: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 657: 654: 637: 633: 610: 593: 583: 577: 564: 543: 470: 450: 446: 436: 433:The Simpsons 402: 398: 370: 311: 261: 258:Strong keep. 257: 232: 215: 195: 166: 147: 69:Call me MoP! 59: 55: 51: 45: 43: 31: 28: 613:—Preceding 552:Tim Vickers 245:Doc Strange 501:Disclaimer 421:Disclaimer 358:Disclaimer 300:Disclaimer 220:AndreNatas 185:Disclaimer 165:. I say 159:Oxidation 615:unsigned 475:Simpsons 142:View log 611:Keep. 571:and/or 109:protect 104:history 634:Delete 544:Delete 488:Keeper 408:Keeper 345:Keeper 340:WP:SUP 287:Keeper 233:Delete 216:Delete 196:Delete 172:Keeper 167:delete 157:, and 137:delete 113:delete 62:uppets 54:aster 46:delete 584:Tucky 573:Apple 445:. If 399:topic 332:WP:OR 163:WP:OR 151:Apple 140:) – ( 130:views 122:watch 118:links 16:< 644:talk 623:talk 602:talk 598:Itub 556:talk 517:talk 459:talk 389:talk 336:WP:N 323:talk 273:talk 224:talk 126:logs 100:talk 96:edit 639:DGG 578:Van 567:to 497:| 491:| 485:. 417:| 411:| 375:doi 354:| 348:| 342:. 296:| 290:| 262:not 207:• 181:| 175:| 646:) 625:) 604:) 558:) 550:. 519:) 494:76 461:) 414:76 391:) 373:. 351:76 334:. 325:) 293:76 275:) 235:- 226:) 178:76 169:. 153:, 128:| 124:| 120:| 116:| 111:| 107:| 102:| 98:| 58:f 642:( 621:( 600:( 554:( 515:( 457:( 387:( 381:. 377:: 321:( 271:( 222:( 144:) 134:( 132:) 94:( 71:☺ 60:P 56:o 52:M

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Master of Puppets
Call me MoP!
03:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Apple Oxidation
Apple Oxidation
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Apple
Browning (chemical process)
Oxidation
WP:OR
Keeper
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Disclaimer
17:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Ten Pound Hammer
17:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
AndreNatas
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