596:. I don't have anything against articles about highly specialized topics. I think this topic is notable enough so that an expert (or at least someone with copious amounts of spare time and a good understanding of basic science) could write a good article about it. However, I see nothing salvageable in the current version of the article, and being so specialized it seems unlikely that it will improve anytime soon. It is so filled with inaccuracies and confused writing that I think the best solution is to turn it into a redirect for now. However, if someone writes something better in the future I won't object. --
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Apples and pears are similar - both are in the same sub-family as is medlar and quince. Grape is different. I smile when you don't see the relevance of individual articles of a TV program getting the 'Knowledge (XXG) stamp of approval' in comparison to 'apple oxidation'. It would be easier to get
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I don't follow you. 'Apple oxidation' is notable by any definition. Scientific journal articles deal with the topic specifically. Books are written about it, specifically. Compare this to the dozens of articles on specific episodes of
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states simply that editors should work on improving pages, without regarding perfection, because it can be fixed later. It is not a reason to delete an article. Actually, what policy are you basing the deletion request on? Cheers!
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funding to do 'apple oxidaton' research than to do the same thing over an individual episode of The
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as trivial essay. There may be a home forthis somewhere, but not on WP. Ref 1 is "Science Fair
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Those are reasons for re-writing the article: not deleting it. The topic is not original research. It is super easy to find journal references. See:
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