675:. Nowhere in reliable sources are these things refereed to as "artificial moons" and what are, solar mirrors for light illumination, is already covered in the solar mirror article. So this is an extremely pointless content fork. Also, it's completely ridiculous to argue that the article should be kept because some random niche scientific discipline considers every single earth bound thing that gives out light to be an "artificial moon." Maybe someone somewhere was like "hey, the moon glows, and this glows. So this is an "artificial moon", but that's no excuse to keep an article that fails the notability guidelines and is a completely redundant content fork anyway. --
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project that appears to have never made it off the drawing board and has not seen any significant coverage since. There is coverage of other solar mirrors but those are typically not referred to as 'artificial moons' in reliable sources, and if coverage of other solar mirrors is the claim to
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the space station that it was called an artificial moon. Knowledge is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary, and the point of an article isn't to be a list of every obscure thing that might have gone by a certain name. --
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