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507:-- I restored some of the information recently blanked, and updated several references that had gone bad. I also added a link to the popular reference book on collegiate societies, Baird's Manual, which has a three-page section on the Society. Clearly, with over 150 active squadrons (~chapters), thousands of active participants and tens of thousands of alumni it is active, and notable. Some of the Fraternity and Sorority Project participants are engaging more actively on groups like this which we've adopted; any that are in Baird's are considered by us to of merit for the Project. I'll agree that activity in the 2015 to early 2020 period was lagging. Hopefully that is now being addressed. Meanwhile, I added an infobox among other improvements. I hope it will be up to snuff now. 602:
It has some fluff, but having worked with Air Force ROTC I can say AAS is alive and well. Many of the sources for AAS info, especially the historical stuff, aren't necessarily online. Silver Wings started as the female auxiliary of AAS, but there have been periodic attempts to revive it. I don't know
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I'm going mainly on what I have linked above, what is actually in the article, the incidence of the coverage in Google books, and finally the age of the organization making it highly likely that more coverage exists in local newspapers. Now, I cannot see the full results in Google as it is often in
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University guides are independent coverage. Student newspaper coverage of what happens on a campus is not independent by nature, but at the same time it is not written by the Air force or by the Arnold Air Society. There is a lot of both student newspaper coverage and coverage by university guides,
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My opinion is that if after 73 years the best coverage that exists is universities covering their local chapters, Air Force coverage that's essentially glorified press releases, and university guides (which I'm not convinced are reliable/independent), that is even more indication of non-notability
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to be indicative of notability unless you would argue that there are literally thousands of notable fraternities at American colleges just because they are included in a guide and covered by the colleges they are active at.
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publications listed in the article-- I don't see enough to merit an article here. Not a reason for deletion, but the article as it stood until I came upon it
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than if it had been formed more recently with comparable coverage. While I agree that it exists, I'm still not seeing the bar of
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Yeah that makes sense-- I wouldn't be opposed to merging there, but let's wait and see where the AFD goes. Cheers,
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that a merge with AFROTC is advisable...AAS's relationship with AFROTC is very similar to the relationship of the
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besides the university guides and air force articles? I'm not seeing any. I also wouldn't consider inclusion in a
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there are enough mentions in Google books to establish GNG/NCORP. There are also many articles (
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snippet form. I have no stake in this subject really, so If you wanted to propose a merge with
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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There's some of verifiable information, but the best coverage I found is the two features in
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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