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Based on the entry in the index, Benz's entry is shorter than the Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia entry, but both of these have an full entry for the camp. Chirurg is an autobiography of a prisoner and survivor which has a chapter titled, "From Gerdauen to Stutthof". I'm not currently located
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The lack of size of an article is no reason to delete. So far the discussion already disproved the allegation that it fails WP:V. While there seem to be no over abundance of regular internet sources there are easy to find book sources. I found
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at a liberal arts university, and I do not have access to any of these, but most US or German Liberal Arts universities have one or both. To me, this is pretty clear coverage by multiple independent NPOV scholarly sources.
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test. A google search for "Außenarbeitslager Gerdauen" gives only mirrors of the Knowledge article. Searches for its previous names do not identify anything that would be considered as reliable sources.
699:. The current stub has maybe two sentences of independent content. No prejudice for recreation, but for now it would be more useful to expand the section on subcamps in the main article, IMHO.-- 625: 407:, the stub and redirect name; stub is not notable as presented for stand alone. I see it is mentioned in a sub-camp section, which is cited (although not RS cited), in the main article of 158: 603:(or redirect) per Seasider91. The main article lists 38 subcamps, spread over a large area. These were apparently labour camps, not death camps, though mortality was high. 117: 90: 85: 94: 284: 324: 304: 264: 77: 344: 124: 179: 146: 52:, although there's probably a discussion to be had about where. There doesn't seem to be much disagreement now that the place existed. 81: 711: 687: 668: 637: 624:; appears to have existed for a relatively short period of time (Sept 1944 to Jan 1945), if my reading of this material is right: 612: 590: 557: 538: 523: 494: 462: 445: 420: 399: 375: 356: 336: 316: 296: 276: 256: 59: 140: 479: 17: 136: 73: 65: 575:
Der Ort des Terrors. Geschichte der nationalsozialistischen Konzentrationslager Band 6: Natzweiler, Groß-Rosen, Stutthof
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Long version: This is a obviously a sensitive topic, and must be treated very carefully. I hope I am doing that here.
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or to the regions in Poland or the Kaliningrad Oblast where the concentration camp was apparently located.
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There is some mention of this topic in google books but in German maybe it does exist under English name--
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Chirurg, Riva. "Bridge of Hope, Bridge of Sorrow." Berkeley: Judah L. Magnes Museum (1994). p151-159
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per recent article improvements; an acceptable stub at this point, with potential for expansion.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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before even reading the AfD page. It seems we are also missing an article on inmate
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Fails WP:V. We don't even know if this is real. This should have been speedied.
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The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos
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without redirecting unless the other thirty-nine subcamps are redirects.--
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Die Todesmärsche 1944/45: Das letzte Kapitel des nationalsozialistischen
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Endzeit in Ostpreussen. Ein beschwiegenes Kapitel des Holocaust
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Clearly existed according to these history books on Stutthof:
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to the main Stutthof article where it is already mentioned
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I note that this article has existed in articlespace since
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Redirect to Stutthof main article section on sub-camps
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