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clues here and wording is key to notability guidelines. Amateur leagues for one, like non-league football requires greater source verification to pass basic GNG. Clubs can't simply be added to wikipedia because they were created yesterday, last week or three years ago. I don't see the coverage for these teams, I don't see anything you have contribute here to change my mind. So I will stick with what I know, and the articles fails multiple guidelines.
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Whats with you? Why are you so mad? Why are you assuming I haven't done a google search, where is your evidence for that? To start with, never expect every person to run web searches, you are not winning any points here, I don't like this argumentative approach you have chosen. There are multiple
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you specifically stated above that you didn't think a search was necessary, this is disappointing, because foreign topics are already difficult to find sources for, but if nobody searches and is simply willing to !vote delete based on the current sourcing in the article, then it contributes to
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Good work finding that FourFourTwo article, but I don't think that would meet 'significant coverage' requirements for these clubs individually. It is probably a great source for the League article though. Probably the only source among what you and I found that meets
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These really should have been nominated separately. Since not meeting the GNG is the main argument here, each subject will need to be individually assessed. Suggest procedurally closing the latter four and re-nominating if appropriate.
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