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569:. The artist referred to dont seem to quite reach up to notable so far. I did find one australian web news article reference. Tim McIlrath -article has lots of references, but mostly about gig dates, and do not really make for documentation on notable events, or musicians. Mindless lists of band members changing or tour and recording dates do not meet criteria for 488:
Yes, I did see that, and it is a reasonable position to take (as is your position), although I'm not sure why that one wouldn't have been closed as a "redirect". One difference, though, is that multiple third-party sources have made mention of the connections with these artists, which I believe was
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I believe it wasn't closed as "redirect" because the band contained two members with articles. We'd be introducing bias if we redirected to only one or the other. You do have a good point about the sources, which makes me realize my case isn't rock solid. I'm sort of a deletionist, so maybe I'm
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The sources you listed don't do much more than mention Hennessy, with three of four being Punknews.org articles. I think it may be wise to ignore the "two or more ensembles" criterion in this case; even though he is in at least two independently notable bands, it seems that he has not received
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The band has only released one full-length album, is signed to non-notable independent record labels, and has not had any of its songs chart on a major music chart. In addition, the band is not covered significantly in reliable sources. It fails
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in independent sources.) I know, it's the difficulty with these sorts of music articles when they come to AfD—we're suddenly having to research the potential notability of multiple articles' subjects all at once.
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I think he's sufficiently notable, as there are multiple brief but non-trivial mentions. There is also coverage of him in the
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should note that Neil Hennessy may not be notable. I've done a Google News search and found no significant coverage of him.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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biased when it comes to this, but I still believe the mentions of Hennessy are not significant enough to pass
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significant coverage in reliable sources. An article on Hennessy likely wouldn't make it past stub class.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I suggest you take a look at the closing rationale for a similar AFD I nominated
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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WP:Music (C6), and has RS with sufficient notability for inclusion.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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including the three albums which I added. No notability per
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not the case with the related articles in that other AfD.
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Baxter (punk band)
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