262:(2)This entry seems relies heavily on self-published sources or interviews about himself, which is not reliable sources.The whole "Early life" basically came from his self-published books, his blog or interviews with the subject. Almost all of them were subjective. I already cut out quite a few paragraphs that were poorly sourced. Like the previous edits claimed he is a lecturer in couple Japanese Universities but all I found is the subject posted some pictures with seemingly students in it. I couldnt found any official records from those universities. So it's almost impossible to tell if he is a lecturer or just some guy who happened gave out a speech in those places. The editor Ray Jameson, who created this page, also included a section name called "Ariana Miyamoto and Naomi Osaka" but the whole section just talked about McNeil had wrote some columns about them and gave out his personal opinions, which is hardly worth metioning in a wiki page. The whole previous page seems more like a self-promotion page as most of the things there were overwhelmingly positive and the used of words were quite subjective. I already tried to clear out this problem and balance both opinions but I think it's worth mentioning here.
259:(1) The subject have problems with notability. He basically is a blogger, self-published book author and part time columnist (Mainly The Japan Times). Although he wrote several pieces to more well-known news media like The Washington Post, I dont think it's notable enough to have it own page. The only thing he did that could be considered somehow notable is his involvement in the 2018 Fuji TV "Blackface" incident. But his involvement was mainly just wrote some op-ed to protest and some of his remarks was picked up by some US news media. Although the subject name pops up here and there in some big media coverages, almost all of them are just asking his thoughts about Fuji TV "Blackface" incident. Most of the other news pieces that include him were just like that. Other than that, he is, to put it mildly, a nobody (Except his remarks last year cause some backlash in Japan).So I think he fails WP:GNG
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It seems like three of us agreed that the subject is not specially notable and most sources about him are unreliable. The subject's commentary about the Fuji TV "Blackface" incident and Naomi Osaka were sought out by some media outlets but that's about it. User HumanxAnthro and I both agreed merging
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For western ex-pats (and possibly also non-western Black ex-pats) in Japan, at least those of my "generation", McNeil is something of a household name, and while I don't think being relatively famous within a certain small community merits a standalone
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Fails notablilty and full of unreliable sources. As user HumanxAnthro above point out, the Fuji TV incident should be merged into that section of the Fuji TV page instead. The subject need a lot more nontrivial coverage about himself to have a standalone
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I see. How about create a section on the Naomi Osaka page, explaining the incident and include his opinions in it instead? Seem more fitting.
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