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456:- It does appear this accident resulted in changes to the way prototype flight tests are conducted, with FDR/CVR becoming mandatory. Regarding effects on Bell Helicopter and the aviation industry, Vertical Magazine called its story on the NTSB findings (in 2018, two years after the crash) 530:
Concur that this is an important point. The crash and its repercussions were massively impactful on the type’s development, and if there was enough information to justify spinning off a separate article, obviously we shouldn’t then delete the separate article.
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and has had a lasting effect on flight testing. I think that the assertion "it is only a prototype" is bogus, as most prototype crashes have some lasting effect, if only to "stop being stupid and never let that pile of P** fly ever
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notes that this was a crash during development of the first commercial helicopter with a fly-by-wire FCS, and ties that to the NTSB's found causes (this may be worth adding into the article). If kept, it may be worth renaming to
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I also wanted to add the NTSB made a recommendation to require FDR/CVR for prototype aircraft arising from this crash, so it could be kept as a precedent-setting crash. Cheers,
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a prototype helicopter crashes during testing, hardly noteworthy or that unusual and not notable for stand-alone article. Already covered sufficiently in
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since it is unlikely to be the only accident ever of this type, but appears (at least for now) to be the only fatal accident of a prototype.
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is a good example of a test flight crash that was both newsworthy and important for flight safety. I concur with the other "Keep" voters.
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is not the guideline for this article. Also because it was a prototype the ramifications of the crash and it's causes are notable.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Please do. I find it notable. It passes our guidelines per my !vote.
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Helicopter crashes are quite common and this was a test flight.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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deep-dive 2018 story by Rotor & Wing International
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I specifically took the details of the crash out of
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