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590:. Unless someone wants to do the work poring over the page histories for all the articles to conclusively show that attribution isn't required, it's easier to not delete the pages. Some of the pages can be straight redirected such as those in the first half of the list, but several of the articles in the second half have content that isn't on the ship article/pictures that might be added to the target page. ---- 535:
No, it was a bad idea in that case because the notability (or lack thereof) of the nominees varied, plus there were a lot more of them. Here, it's all about the same: German naval men who performed a valiant deed and got a ship named after them, not much else (not even a decoration?).
52:. There's consensus against keeping these, but no consensus about whether to delete, redirect and/or merge. The redirection allows editors to decide for each individual article whether they want to merge any (sourced or sourceable) content from the history. I'm asking the nominator, 586:. These are longstanding articles, so if the content was merged to the namesake ship article in the past or if content will be merged as a result of this AfD – quality of the article content varies – then we can't delete the pages, since they would be legally needed for 205: 464: 166: 517: 199: 385:
All of these could be merged to the ships named after them. And if they are deleted, they should be recreated as redirects. The easiest way to do this would be for
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to withdraw this nomination and then redirect all of these to the ships, with individual decisions on merging. I don't see much point in an AFD. —
520:, and the gist of it was that it's a bad idea, and yet it being done again here. Each article should have it's own nom and it's own review. - 139: 134: 596: 143: 126: 93: 86: 17: 220: 187: 240:. Very similar to the Navy Cross nominations, except this person had no high-level award, only a ship named after him. 428: 404: 107: 103: 505: 642: 489: 181: 40: 465:
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56:, or others to implement the redirections because the closing script doesn't support automation of this step. 625: 600: 574: 545: 526: 508: 493: 476: 455: 432: 408: 364: 349: 244: 177: 68: 612:. There's nothing to merge as the source listed in most of these articles is someone's personal web site: 541: 451: 638: 621: 570: 502: 36: 227: 485: 130: 516:
I thought the idea of trying to stuff in dozens of other articles into the AfD for a single one was
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Now that we've got other comments, withdrawing is no longer an option, so
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Also nominating these other articles for the same reasons:
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