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770:. The background section is almost entirely about the album (and quite similar to the one for the album and those in many of the songs from it), and as noted by Till, none of the sources give significant coverage of the song. As its charting amounts to one week's sales in South Korea of 1,840 digital downloads the week the album dropped (16 of 17 songs from the deluxe edition charted, 15 only in that week, and this was 14th at number 172), I don't believe it demonstrates notability. The content and notability issues are very similar to another song from 228:- Don't try and make it sound like you are trying to pay a compliment and then AFD this article, Wikipedian Penguin. For a non-single, quite a lot of reviewers spoke about the song and made comparisons to others. And don't give me that crap about focus on the album. 90% of all Critical reception sections are composed of song reviews within an album review. An album review 643:
Aaron--Calvin? Please tone it down a bit and stop taking this personally, please. I don't think Penguin did anything wrong by the letter of the law, though proposing "merge" in an AfD is a bit of a clunker, and there is no reason to let this get out of hand. Michig, I agree with your point, certainly
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Clearly the author has done his best at writing this article. But if this is all that can be said about "Best of Me" (minus the Background section, which does not have direct relevance to the song), we probably do not need this article. The information -- of which there isn't a substantial amount --
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It did not receive significant coverage, as I'd implied above and Till has stressed below. There's little information to warrant this article. True, charting is only an indication that the topic may possibly be notable because of its commercial success, but not always, as is the case with "Best of
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merely a discussion to talk about your concern. Don't try and pass it off as that, because it certainly isn't washing with me. If you had of wanted to discuss this, you could have posted on my user talk or the talk page of the article. You're obviously not the editor I thought you were.
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Aaron, may I request you not to take "Dance for You" as an example here as it is a very unsuitable choice to defend BOM. My point is only that DFY had a music video and the article was created only after the music video was released, in fact nearly a month after its release.
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be the best solution; my guess was merge, but I wasn't sure. I can understand your frustration since a few of your contributions have been brought to question, but please stay focused on the matter and stop thinking I use double standards.
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page. If the most any publication can say about a song is (1) brief, and (2) contained in an album (p)review, I'm inclined to think the album page is an appropriate place to contain info on such material; i.e., it does not appear to meet
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the songs on the album. And it is contradictory to nominate for deletion and then say it should be merged. Why not place merge tags and allow for a discussion on the talk page? It passes notability guidelines at GNG.
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critical response section. The background section is not even relevant to the song, so we can't move that. But if bringing this up at the talk page is still the best thing to do, we can withdraw this AfD.
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sure if a merge would be the best solution. I'm also considering redirecting as an option because there's hardly any information to merge. Much of the info is already covered in the
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I can't help it if you take my nomination personally. We have two mediocre-length paragraphs of information that is actually directly related to the song. That is not passing
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on one chart did they. Well in that case Till, all critical reception sections are trivial, as they are all made up of album reviews. An album review reviews the
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Contains three trivial sentences as part of the album review. No significant coverage. And "Popcrush" could hardly be considered a reliable source.
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on principle, but IMO we might as well let this run and if "merge" is the outcome, so be it. Your advice is, as always, appreciated. Thank you.
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Because it passes each bullet point. Charting, or rather chart position, isn't an issue here. It's not a full requirement.  —
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So you listen to someone else and not me then, Wikipedian Penguin, even though I said this above and you ignored it.  —
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is all based on sources that focus on the album as a whole, so a merge is probably the best solution. —
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No, you opened this AFD in order to have the article deleted. That is the aim of your action. This is
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Gets a tiny paragraph (like all the other songs) as part of the album. No significant coverage.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Contains three trivial sentences as part of the album review. No significant coverage.
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What position a song charts at has nothing to do with it. No one said anything when "
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Gets two trivial sentences as part of the album review. No significant coverage.
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Gets two trivial sentences as part of the album review. No significant coverage.
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Gets one trivial sentence as part of the album review. No significant coverage.
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Regardless, the chart position does not address the issue of a lack of '
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Gets 2 lines as part of coverage of the album. No significant coverage.
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Album liner notes is a primary source → not indepdendent of the song
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as the content about this song can easily be summarized there. --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Merely verifies a mediocre chart position, no coverage at all.
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Fair enough. No objection to letting this run its course. --
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I appreciate both Michig's and Drmies' input on this. —
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list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions
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