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535:- I'm going to be blunt and to the point - I'm ticked off at how so much time seems to have been wasted on getting this to GA status when lets be honest it's not an entirely notable song (Until today I've never heard of the song and again just assuming here but I assume not many other people have either,) It would've been better if perhaps a more well known song was picked for GA status.... That being said I also don't want peoples hardwork to be for complete nothing so based on the fact it's at GA status I have to say Keep. – 55:. After some thought. No one here is advocating outright deletion, so redirection really is the way to go here. Noting that it is somewhat unusual for a GA to be deleted/redirected, but as per those that have weighed in on this nomination in these circumstances it is reasonable to do so. As always, if there's anything substantial and worth merging to the parent album article, it can be done so from the page history, as long as it is attributed. ( 566:"It is unfortunate that editors put effort into writing or maintaining articles that do not meet Knowledge (XXG) policy or guidelines. Many editors have seen articles that they invested time and energy into get deleted, and there is no doubt that this can be discouraging. However, the fact of the effort put into an article does not excuse the article from the requirements of policy and guidelines." 780:
issues; this remains a non-notable song, just as it was in the last AfD in 2009. As notability is not a GA criterion, I'm at a loss as to why being a GA has been cited here as any kind of reason: Good Article quality can be created for all sorts of non-notable people, places, or things. I have seen a
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by the GNG. Additionally, NSONGS states, "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent
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as yes it did pass GAN. It charted highly on the same chart in separate years, which is in fact quite a rarity. It has been performed about 250 times over three tours. I believe that it does in fact just about pass. Don't forget, it wasn't even released as a single, so the fact that this being
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Yep I agree that it must be discouraging to have their hard work go through the roller like this, but seriously, sometimes it is needed. Especially in cases like this, where a mountain is being created out of a mole hill.
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That's a very good point but to me it must be discouraging to write it up to GA standards only for a year or 2 later to be deleted, But yeah we'll have to agree to disagree. –
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This song charted at #4 on the US club charts, and while ranking on a national music chart is listed at NSONG as a factor that "suggest that a song or single
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Not notable: barely any coverage in third party, reliable sources. The amount of trivial padding in the live performances section is ridiculous.
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non-single has attracted this attention... Also, this articles attracts on average 675 views per month based on the last three months;
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Given the article has passed a GA review I'd like to see a stronger consensus before deleting or redirecting and protecting. Regards,
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It should also be noted that this song has been individually brought to AfD twice before, and was deleted both times. –
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be notable", "a standalone article should still satisfy the aforementioned criteria" of "be the subject of multiple,
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number of GAs that were subsequently deleted at AfD, including songs, because they weren't notable.
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of 20 Rihanna song articles was closed as keep with no prejudice against individual nominations.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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As the senior editor in charge wants a better consensus as it passed GAN: I change to
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All of you participated in the previous AfD and are invited back for this one. –
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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per WP:NSONGS. The synthesis IndianBio brought up is also concerning.
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problems here. The sources here are all about the song's parent album
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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