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Knowledge (XXG) entries pertaining to films that are alleged to have one it, and websites pertaining to Yuri Gadyukin. You will notice that all these websites have clearly been produced by the same source. Any websites that do refer to the Festival, I found one on Polanski's Knife in the Water, have, I imagine, received this information from the Knowledge (XXG) page. If you check any written work on the films of Roman Polanski, you will find no mention of either the Bucharest Film Festival or the Golden Wolf that Knowledge (XXG) claims it was awarded. An example of the further spreading of misinformation that I previously mentioned.
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Bucharest Film Festival never existed. It is a fictitious invention intended to lend credence to the creation of the fictitious Soviet flimmaker Yuri Gadyukin who also has a Knowledge (XXG) entry. While I did not feel obliged to edit a fictional character that someone had spent a lot of time
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The films cited as winning awards did not receive them. It is not defunct, it is fictitious. I spend a lot of time in
Romania and there is no mention of the "Bucharest Film Festival" in the Romanian National archives. You can easily double check this as you will find few mentions of either the
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Festival and award ceremony that trades off the success of other films to establish verisimilitude. Furthermore, this fictitious article has already led to the spreading of misinformation. I feel very strongly that this is a bad thing.
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Festivalo de Socialisto-Filmo". And there is also the issue of showing any sort of actual (posthumus) connection between the deceased
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A fine response. We can always delete articles found to be inaccurate, false, or hoaxy... without leaving an negative onus toward recreation of properly sourced articles about notable topics. If someone
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