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being deleted at AfD then it should be salted, but not as a pre-emptive measure. I can plausibly see a new/uninvolved editor creating an article with this title using sources that no one has found yet (perhaps in Chinese or Burmese, as Mccapra says); ideally such an editor should be able to create such an article without any difficulties.
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I marked two of the three sources in the article (these are separate form Levivich sources below) as failed verification, the sources are about ethnic groups that exist in China not peoples that have crossed from Myanmar to China. The remaining source is Ethnologue.com, which I don't have access too.
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Note that I'd oppose salting this at the moment. This page has not been repeatedly recreated (since it's not yet been deleted); rather, there has been an edit war concerning the redirection or not of the page, resulting in the article being taken to AfD. If this page is repeatedly recreated after
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Titles of the form "Ruritanian Lilliputian" are inherently ambiguous. In America such things as "Indian American" are about people of Indian descent living in America, but in Britain (and I think in most of the world, although I stand to be corrected) the equivalent is called "British Indian".
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The bulk of these Burmese expatriate communities (both forced and voluntary) are found in Thailand (probably approximately 2 million), with significant groups in Bangladesh, Malaysia and Pakistan, smaller communities in India,
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and rewrite the article from scratch using reliable sources later. From a quick Google Scholar search, I found a reliable articles about Burmese people in China easily (e.g
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this article examines Myanmar’s internally displaced persons (IDPs) at the border between Myanmar and China and how they cross the border for new livelihood opportunities
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an appropriate subject for an article, but the current iteration is to fraught with issues as noted above. The redirect that existed here for a while was
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Before the coronavirus outbreak, about 50,000 people crossed the border every day, including Myanmar people who work or have residency in China
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I'd be very keen to see what you make of it - it does look like there are reliable sources to write a good article. I agree with you on
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Redirecting to an inappropriate target, and edit-warring in the process, is disruptive. This is the right place for the article.
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Personally I don't think it was edit warring based on the history. It was approaching it but it wasn't quite there yet I'd say.
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I went ahead and added some sources to the article, I don't think it's enough obviously but I would say it's a start at least.
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Salting this article is definitely the wrong move. It would be fair to delete. I'm inclined to
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not appropriate, but a redlink may be the best way to handle this over any other solution. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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since its creation. The page has been changed to a redirect on multiple occasions (to
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is also not an appropriate redirect, as not all Burmese people in China are Kachin.
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and salt. Was redirected several times to remove unsourced information as per
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unless sources are presented in Chinese or Burmese that I can’t identify.
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have sought refuge in the southwestern Chinese province of Yunnan
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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