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in some form or another. There have been calendars produced that are filled with Bushisms. Publishing a President's own words hardly constitutes a BLP violation, nor is it anything new. Back in the 60s, there was a parody of the Mao Zedong book, filled with quotes from Lyndon Johnson, in a red cover,
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I really can't understand why this article has been nominated for deletion- its well written + sourced, maintains NPOV, and it is in relation to a very notable issue- i live in australia, and "bushism" is a very well known and used term. All i can think of, is maybe the person nominating this article
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This is wikipedia's "coatrack" definition "A coatrack article is a Knowledge (XXG) article that ostensibly discusses the nominal subject, but in reality is a cover for a tangentially related biased subject. The nominal subject is used as an empty coatrack, which ends up being mostly obscured by the
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You could be right. This article is more blatant about its bias, so coatrack might not technically apply. The same concerns that apply to a coatrack article are there though -- the article promotes the bias that Bush is a moron and invites a collection of examples to show that.
540:. Rubbish article (barely more than a collection of quotes), but clearly notable topic. Bush's problematic relationship with the English language was a key feature of pop culture's view of one of the world's best-known people. Incidentally, given the nominator's involvement in 477:
So while i guess a case could be made for having less quotes, i don't believe its reasonable to say that these quotes are only 'tangentially related' to the articles subject- the subject is bushism's, and these are examples of bushism's.
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subject of more than one published book, notable enough. Oh, and I know consensus can change and all that, but the last AFD was 15-to-1 to keep, so it's pretty clear the community has made their decision on this already.
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How is that? Knowledge (XXG) should be consistent when dealing with U.S. presidents. Also, regardless of whether it is a well-known figure, the information is used simply to defame the subject, thus a BLP violation.
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Theres the axe-grinding i mentioned. But i will clarify- by 'well-written' i dont mean its perfect or at feature article status- but its good enough for the writing not to be an issue at all.
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involves false information; Bushisms have been thoroughly reported by reliable sources, and as the BLP policy I linked above indicates, negative information that is reliably sourced
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interesting AfD, I agree with most of the above. Very well-written article with lots of good sources. Not sure why it is in the AfD
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discussion. Not sure about !voting at the moment myself, will have to take a look at the article in a bit and see.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Well-written? It's simply a list of comments made by the US president as an ad hominem attack. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Also please address the BLP issue and the precedent set by the Obama article. --
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A significant form of U.S. political malapropisms for most of this decade.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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can be written in a neutral manner, it is still a POV fork. --
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