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434:. I rely on Knowledge (XXG) to provide up to date, relevant and sourced information about current culture. I understand that this particular topic doesn't seem NPOV to some people, but it is impossible to present many of these quotes and the person who made the statements in a neutral way because the quotes just are so stupid. Some things just are what they are. However, I hope that the Knowledge (XXG) will exist beyond this current moment and provide a sort of time capsule for the dark ages we are (hopefully passing through). Maybe this is not a proper encyclopedia justification, but I wanted to add my mustard. If my vote doesn't count, it won't be the first time. 479:. I have only just come across Knowledge (XXG) and this is my first contribution, so I speak with limited experience. I was, however, impressed by the the neutral manner in which the article approaches an inherently partisan subject. As other comments mention it is very well referenced and at the very least not overtly pushing one POV. Coverage of this subject is always going to make George Bush look stupid and as a result make some people unhappy, surely this doesn't mean that Knowledge (XXG) should pretend it doesn't exist. If the the consensus is still for a more balanced article, then edit rather than delete. 245:"Bushisms" (I've not yet heard one, mind you, but I'm sure it happens!). American Presidents get a special pass on Knowledge (XXG).org and, unlike the quotable quotes that go into Wikiquote, every word of a President is subject to be reported and analyzed. There were plenty of Clintonisms too, of the "Slick Willie" variety (he didn't inhale and didn't break the laws of "this country" when he smoked weed in England, didn't have sex with Monica in the sense of intercourse, etc.). Knock yourself out. 188:
Knowledge (XXG) article, not what is found in the references. How would you write about racism in Knowledge (XXG) if the topic, and not the writing in the article was subject to POV complaints. The topic is certainly notable - ever watch David Letterman? He's been showing these in video clips every night for months. And the references - often multiple references for each article - speak for themselves.
459:, please feel free to clarify details. While it may contain POV, there is a limit to how neutral such an embarrassing series of events can be portrayed. Even if the article would be extremely POV, is deserves to be re-written in NPOV as much as possible, not deleted. This topic, which documents the language usage of Bush, is most certainly notable, and quite similar to 244:
For good or for bad, our President is a source of interesting quotes, and Knowledge (XXG) is the first attempt to verify that each one actually occurred, when, where and in what context. Because it's the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, there is the opportunity for a Bush fan to put in intelligent
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written on the subject. I don't know what more you want from references. There is a huge number of references - some entries have two! And there is a difference between the intention of the people mocking Bush over this and the content of the Knowledge (XXG) article. POV referes to the writing in the
532:). I should also point out that here in Paris, France, they sell (translated) books of "Bushisms" - it is, I assume, an almost global phenomenon to find interest in the fact that the leader of the most powerful nation in the world has difficulty formulating a sentence/thought. 454:
that the article is unreferenced, much less 'speculative' in any way. I find one, if not two sources for each quote sufficient, and much more comprehensive than other articles considered properly cited. If I have misinterpreted the argument established by
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This article seems to mostly list different "bushisms", and really doesn't seem to be anything more then a repository of quotes, and a lot of speculation. Not much fact to back it up, mostly references transcripts and other quotes.
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While I'm not at all a fan of the actual list of Bushisms which in my opinion leaves too much open to original research and attracts vandals, this term is very well defined and very well used, and as such, belongs here.
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Article is referenced, not just to the quotes themselves but to books and articles that define the term itself, so there are no verifiability or original research issues that I can see.
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I suggest that dissenting editors instead spend their time trying to keep the list of Bushisms under control, which is bound to be a full time job. -
503:. This is a bad faith nomination. The article is very well referenced, and the term itself is deeply entrenched in the American culture. -- 486: 17: 200:- I'm sorry, but this is in no ways deletable. First it is referenced a bunch, everyone of the bushisms is ref, often mutiply. 48 330:
There have been books written on Bushisms, to say nothing of the wealth of web material. Strong keep (and cleanup as needed)
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Plenty of reliable sources - like links to Bush's transcripts and speeches. Those are certainly reliable, eh?
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Thats a serious accusation. There is no indication at all that this is a bad faith nomination. -
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I'm obviously not very bright - the other AfD closed a year ago. But my keep stands. -
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section is just too much, and should be trans-wikied to Wikiquote under
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
208:. Also this is a very common term. I'm thinking speedy keep. -- 409: 124: 120: 116: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 554:). No further edits should be made to this page. 371:It did nothing but spout off famous bushisms. 408:, one or two direct quote examples is OK, but 275:Too little time has transpired since the last 204:on this small article certainly makes it meet 80:Articles for deletion/Bushism (3rd nomination) 75:Articles for deletion/Bushism (2nd nomination) 8: 183:"Some" referencing? The references include 446:. I do not understand the implications by 279:for this to be anything but a speedy keep. 67: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 65: 24: 537:11:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 522:00:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 508:19:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC) 495:15:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC) 472:02:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC) 439:22:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 427:19:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 389:17:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC) 361:20:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 342:17:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 323:10:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 305:00:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 291:02:20, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 262:01:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 250:23:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 235:23:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 215:23:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 193:22:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 176:22:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 152:22:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC) 53:00:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC) 1: 70:Articles for deletion/Bushism 528:Update (I already voted to 414:Criticism of George W. Bush 267:Strong Keep and close as a 571: 406:article's characteristics 547:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 259:Confusing Manifestation 64:AfDs for this article: 396:. I believe that the 452:Dihydrogen Monoxide 222:Dihydrogen Monoxide 163:Dihydrogen Monoxide 280: 497: 485:comment added by 274: 211:Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 150: 562: 549: 505:However whatever 480: 425: 385: 382: 379: 376: 339: 336: 212: 202:reliable sources 146: 132: 114: 34: 570: 569: 565: 564: 563: 561: 560: 559: 558: 552:deletion review 545: 421: 383: 380: 377: 374: 337: 332: 230: 210: 171: 105: 89: 86: 84: 62: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 568: 566: 557: 556: 540: 539: 526: 525: 524: 498: 474: 441: 429: 398:Other Bushisms 391: 363: 344: 325: 309: 308: 307: 264: 252: 239: 238: 237: 228: 195: 178: 169: 139: 138: 85: 83: 82: 77: 72: 66: 63: 61: 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 567: 555: 553: 548: 542: 541: 538: 535: 531: 527: 523: 519: 515: 514:CosmicPenguin 511: 510: 509: 506: 502: 499: 496: 492: 488: 487:89.241.57.188 484: 478: 475: 473: 470: 466: 462: 458: 453: 449: 445: 442: 440: 437: 433: 430: 428: 424: 419: 415: 411: 407: 403: 399: 395: 392: 390: 387: 386: 370: 367: 364: 362: 358: 357: 352: 349:per above. — 348: 345: 343: 340: 335: 329: 326: 324: 321: 317: 313: 310: 306: 302: 298: 297:CosmicPenguin 294: 293: 292: 288: 284: 283:CosmicPenguin 278: 271: 270: 265: 263: 260: 256: 253: 251: 248: 243: 240: 236: 232: 224: 223: 218: 217: 216: 213: 207: 203: 199: 196: 194: 191: 186: 182: 179: 177: 173: 165: 164: 159: 156: 155: 154: 153: 149: 145: 136: 130: 126: 122: 118: 113: 109: 104: 100: 96: 92: 88: 87: 81: 78: 76: 73: 71: 68: 60: 57: 55: 54: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 546: 543: 529: 500: 476: 469:Freedomlinux 461:Colemanballs 443: 431: 401: 397: 393: 373: 365: 355: 346: 333: 327: 311: 269:frosty treat 266: 254: 241: 220: 197: 184: 180: 161: 157: 140: 45: 43: 31: 28: 481:—Preceding 328:Strong keep 423:Mtmelendez 247:Mandsford 534:Saudade7 483:unsigned 465:Yogiisms 436:Saudade7 316:Fuzheado 135:View log 402:Bushism 190:MarkBul 108:protect 103:history 91:Bushism 59:Bushism 50:JForget 338:figura 158:Delete 112:delete 418:WP:RS 206:WP:RS 185:books 129:views 121:watch 117:links 16:< 530:Keep 518:Talk 501:Keep 491:talk 477:Keep 463:and 450:and 444:Keep 432:Keep 420:. - 394:Keep 366:Keep 356:talk 347:Keep 320:Talk 312:Keep 301:Talk 287:Talk 255:Keep 242:Keep 198:Keep 181:Keep 148:talk 125:logs 99:talk 95:edit 46:Keep 457:HAL 448:HAL 381:sau 375:Bur 351:RJH 277:AFD 144:HAL 133:– ( 520:) 493:) 410:17 384:ce 378:nt 359:) 318:| 303:) 289:) 233:) 174:) 142:-- 127:| 123:| 119:| 115:| 110:| 106:| 101:| 97:| 48:-- 516:( 489:( 353:( 334:B 299:( 285:( 231:O 229:2 227:H 225:( 172:O 170:2 168:H 166:( 137:) 131:) 93:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
JForget
00:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Bushism
Articles for deletion/Bushism
Articles for deletion/Bushism (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Bushism (3rd nomination)
Bushism
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
HAL
talk
22:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Dihydrogen Monoxide
H2O
22:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
MarkBul
22:33, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
reliable sources
WP:RS
Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor

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